Bush to talk to border agents' families

Daily Bulletin ^ | Sara Carter

[Ladycalif]

President Bush is expected to reach out to the families of two Texas Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler.

White House staff contacted former agent Ignacio Ramos' family early Friday, assuring them the president would call them soon, said Monica Ramos, the agent's wife.

[ichabod1]

He got shot in the butt-hocks.

[firewalk]

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[deport]

Yep that has a lot to do with the jury trial which convicted Ramos and Compean. If it's applicable then I'm sure the fine Ramos/Compean legal team will bring it forward in the Appellate process. That is were we are at today in this case.

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When I see international anything, especially lawyers, my ears perk up. I can't help that. Too many Americans are becoming internationalist for my taste. I'm an American. I don't give a rats patootie about an internationalist opinion, they don't have this country's best interest at heart, so they are suspect, imho.

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Fantastic article. Thanks for posting it.

Bookmarked.

[RNO1]

The testimony from the Doc is towards the bottom of the page...This is another report on what happened....They quickly dismissed this
http://minutemenmidwest.com/EntryDetail.asp?entryID=170

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On this part of the third link...

In fact, this office leads the nation in the number of drug smuggling cases we prosecute. Because the agents could not identify him, found no fingerprints, could not tie him to the van and did not apprehend him after shooting him, the case against Aldrete could not be proven.

Do you know who removed the bullet? Wouldn't the bullet in his butt be the evidence they needed or was the bullet conveniently lost?

[Cyropaedia]

Shame on you!! You are using L-O-G-I-C. How dare you!

Did you see Sutton on Bill O'Reilly...? O'Reilly really dropped the ball. He didn't challenge Sutton at all.

[RNO1]

What I meant to say was when the Dr did not testify to the fact that he was not shot in the back they quickly dismissed him from testifying...In other words he told the truth....

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At the trial, the drug smuggler claimed that Compean fired 5 or 6 shots at him. During the trial, the prosecution upped that number to 16 shots. The story Davila told the Justice Department was that he was walking across from Mexico (illegally) when Ramos and Compean tried to beat him up. Although under oath, he changed his story many times during the trial. He finally admitted that he was paid $1000.00 to bring the load to an El Paso stash house after he was given immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony against the two agents.

Davila claimed that he was shot in the back as he fled back to Mexico. The U.S. Army doctor who removed the bullet fragment from the smuggler's right groin disagreed. Although he was testifying as a government witness, he told the truth and stated, "The smuggler was not shot from behind". "He was in a running position, (bladed position) and pointing back with his left arm and hand when the bullet hit his left side of his left buttock and traveled to his right groin.

The prosecution then suggested that he may have been shot as he was running across and not away from agent Ramos. The doctor disagreed and so he was quickly dismissed by the prosecution.

Wow! Thanks for that article. This is the first time I read this.

[RNO1]

Yes I did and he looked like a deer caught in the headlights...Except Bill really let him off but just maybe he is not up todate on all of this.....Hannity really took him on last night....Logic LOL......

[RNO1]

The bullet was not lost and was traced back to the BP agents gun.....Sort of makes a joke out of not tying him to being there doesn't it.....

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Thank you.

Sort of makes a joke out of not tying him to being there doesn't it.....

In spades.

[Rakkasan1]

can't agree with you more. I bet the judge told the jury they may only consider "the facts of the case" and that they cannot let their conscience,opinion of the law,or the motives of the defendants affect their decision...

fullyinformedjuries

[Cyropaedia]

I missed that segment with Hannity. Maybe they will re-air it.

Sutton is a joke. A very dangerous joke, but still a joke.

Aren't you now glad Gonzales wasn't appointed to the SC..? This is the sort of sh*t I would expect from Carter's DoJ, not Bush's.

[Mo1]

http://www.kvia.com/global/story.asp?s=5356653&ClientType=Printable

That link leaves a few questions that don't add up and it doesn't sound like a clear cut case

[spunkets]

"They were doing their jobs when they shot at the guy also. According to the agents he had a gun, according to the perp he didn't."

According to the bullet holes in the perp, he was running away. Where's the evidence the perp shot at them? The agents were not doing their jobs.

" As for not reporting the shooting, it is not a "serious" crime."

They shot at a fleeing suspect, then obstructed justice.

"The fact is, the only evidence they have that the agents committed the offenses for which they were jailed is the word of this illegal, lying, drug running scum bag."

Oh? Then how do they know about the 15 shells and the rest of the story?

[spunkets]

Which woman in that pic is the one that filed the 2 domestic complaints against her husband?

[Ladycalif]

Ramos is in the back in the orange shirt. That is Andy Ramirez in the front.

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According to the bullet holes in the perp, he was running away.

Read the link at post #186. If you're not willing to do that, then look at post # 190, the portion I posted from his link. You'll have your answer.