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Law would make Minutemen guilty of 'domestic terrorism'
World Net Daily ^ | 1/20/07 | Jay Blaggett

Posted on 01/20/2007 6:51:42 AM PST by Ladycalif

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To: Ladycalif
Liberals want to make patriotism a hate crime? Nothing surprises me in our country anymore.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

21 posted on 01/20/2007 7:18:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: HiJinx

That section "A" tells me that if you are a part of a "nieghborhood watch" organization...

YOU ARE A TERRORIST!

How 'bout that for some irony this morning???


22 posted on 01/20/2007 7:18:23 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: HiJinx
HB 2848(Domestic Terrorism)

The act looks specifically crafted to attack the Minutemen. I doubt that this would be Constitutional if enacted and put to the test.

23 posted on 01/20/2007 7:20:06 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dog Gone
"The odds of that passing are pretty darn slim."

Which is exactly what most of us said about CFR. Never assume a bill will not pass just because it's unconstitutional.

24 posted on 01/20/2007 7:20:50 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: meanie monster

25 posted on 01/20/2007 7:22:46 AM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Next thing you know they will make it illegal to bait the field along the border with hubcaps.


26 posted on 01/20/2007 7:23:03 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: Post-Neolithic

Yeah, but this one is pretty stupid. What is "patrolling"? Arguably anyone who is carrying a gun legally is "patrolling" for illegal activity. Why else would you carry a gun?


27 posted on 01/20/2007 7:24:07 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: HiJinx

"for the purpose of patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity or to individually patrol for the purpose of detecting alleged illegal activity "

So if you walk or drive around your own neighborhood and happen to see suspicious illegal activity, then YOU are potentially guilty of terrorism.


28 posted on 01/20/2007 7:24:13 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: stm

That is SO wrong, but I love it!


29 posted on 01/20/2007 7:25:02 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: stevie_d_64

The more I read about these morons the more attractive the idea of a coup to take back our government becomes.


30 posted on 01/20/2007 7:26:11 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: Disambiguator
Could this clause be used to prosecute someone for being armed on their own property?

You mean, like Roger Barnett? Absolutely.

31 posted on 01/20/2007 7:27:09 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about support for the Troops)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Absolutely correct. A Park Ranger did that to someone here several years ago, based on a USDA rule that you cannot carry within a National Monument.


32 posted on 01/20/2007 7:28:38 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about support for the Troops)
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section "A"...part of a "nieghborhood watch" organization...YOU ARE A TERRORIST!

Right on...

33 posted on 01/20/2007 7:30:48 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about support for the Troops)
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To: stm

Unless the Mexican is female, no.


34 posted on 01/20/2007 7:31:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: upchuck
Bar on armed civilian patrols offered

"..PHOENIX — A proposed new law would make felons out of members of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps — and probably some neighborhood watch groups.

HB 2286 would make it a crime for any individual or group not affiliated with law enforcement to patrol "to detect alleged illegal activity" if armed. Violators would be subject to up to 18 months in state prison.

The proposal by Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, does not name names. But she said it is specifically aimed at the Minuteman organization "and other vigilante groups" that patrol the border looking for those entering the country illegally.

The purpose of the measure was not lost on Chris Simcox, state director of the Minuteman group. He said the measure is not only unjust but also unconstitutional, violating the right to assemble peaceably and the right to bear arms. But Sinema said the government already infringes on these rights — and apparently in a legal way. She noted, for example, that state law spells out there are certain places where someone cannot carry a gun.

Whether it ever gets before a court is doubtful: All of the sponsors, like Sinema, are Democrats in a Legislature controlled by Republicans.

In essence, Sinema's proposal would be taking two activities that are legal — civilian patrols and carrying a gun — and defining them as domestic terrorism if done together..."

Sinema introduced this same thing before and it went nowhere. This bill is like something Cynthia McKinney used to propose. It amounts to the posturing of a screwball. It has no chance and she knows it.

35 posted on 01/20/2007 7:34:43 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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