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Cotton Mather Had a Point
Redstate.com ^ | 22 January 2007 | .cnI redruM

Posted on 01/22/2007 12:52:23 PM PST by .cnI redruM

“It Happens. So it’s Part of What We Are.” Said Robinson Devor on behalf of his new film about bestiality inflicted by men upon horses.

Now, I’ve heard every miserable and pathetic excuse in the book. We have successfully defined deviancy down to the bedrock and don’t have a sharp enough drill bit to sink it any lower. Daniel Patrick Moynihan would turn over in his grave, but not if Robinson Devor, the director of the movie “Zoo,” were anywhere near his final resting place.

Devor’s decent into the depths of human depravity was unveiled at this year’s Sundance Film Festival. Devor’s new “masterpiece” examines the aesthetic aspects of man-on-horse sexual relationships. No, I’m not exaggerating or making this up. Cine d’Arte now features aesthetic discussions of man-on-horse sexuality.

I’m not reacting angrily to the fact that Robinson Devor decided to make a movie about bestiality. I’m angry that he acts as if bestiality involves never having to say that you’re sorry. I’m even more thoroughly angry that this movie got a glowing review from Kenneth Turin of The Los Angeles Times.

"I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it." Devor claims proudly. I’m sure the creative geniuses that brought us “Laughing Tongues” also felt proud of the money shots. However, there are some things you can’t “aestheticize” the sleaze right out of. Getting your rocks off on a defenseless animal would have to belong on that list.

Twenty-five American soldiers dying in Iraq makes me sad, but I believe we can persevere through that. We made it past The Death March of Bataan and the landscape turned red at Anteitam. America can accept pain and suffering and still survive.

Yet, if this is what our nation’s artistic avant-garde admires, can we remain long on this earth as a nation? Isn’t our cultural heritage something we fight for? If this is the America the world sees at the movies, who can blame Osauma if he hates us. This cannot be what we are letting ourselves become.

The Sundance Film Festival propaganda describes the film as follows:

“The cinematic language invented for the film permits us to examine where we draw the line, how much perversity we can tolerate in others. In a broader sense, Zoo is really about thresholds. What can we stand to know, and, more importantly, what can we stand to accept?”

These guys get their enjoyment from sexually molesting horses. Should I really have to examine whether I’d find this beyond the pale of acceptable human desires? Are there people sitting near my cube in the office thinking? “Gosh, why do we get so bent out of shape over guys who molest the livestock?” Not if our society is any way worth approving.

On most moral issues, I’d probably aggravate a healthy plurality of the modern Conservative Movement. I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes. It's just that there has to be a limit to the level of acceptable behavior somewhere. A grate has to be installed above the sewer.

“It Happens. So it’s Part of What We Are.” Devor pontificates.

"I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it." Devor brags.

Devor cannot be right in either assertion. He cannot be deemed logical if we are to remain civilized. A line has to be drawn somewhere to arrest this appalling moral decay. It has gotten bad enough that I’m thinking that maybe mean old Reverend Cotton Mather legitimately had a point.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: beastiality; beastly; bestial; bestiality; betiality; deviancy; homosexualagenda; leftwing; moralabsolutes; movies; pervert; rideemcowboy; sex; sleaze; sundance
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1 posted on 01/22/2007 12:52:24 PM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

What Cotton Mather have right? Burning witches?


2 posted on 01/22/2007 12:57:09 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

It will be interesting to see if Hollywood buys this.


3 posted on 01/22/2007 12:57:47 PM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM

I wonder what PETA thinks?


4 posted on 01/22/2007 1:00:50 PM PST by JZelle
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To: .cnI redruM

“It Happens. So it’s Part of What We Are.”

That's the mindset of the Borg.


5 posted on 01/22/2007 1:01:11 PM PST by telebob
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To: .cnI redruM

actually, it's horse-on-man, not the other way around.


6 posted on 01/22/2007 1:01:18 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: JZelle

Perhaps they should ask "Mr. Ed."


7 posted on 01/22/2007 1:01:36 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: .cnI redruM; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
"Love thy neigh-bor" ping!


8 posted on 01/22/2007 1:01:40 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: telebob

I SO! don't want assimilated...


9 posted on 01/22/2007 1:02:31 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: camle

Oh,horse on MAN.THATS different then.


10 posted on 01/22/2007 1:03:33 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: wagglebee; WKB

ping


11 posted on 01/22/2007 1:04:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Borges
Hangings, and one crushing. No burnings.

One of my ancestors was murdered in that stupidity.

12 posted on 01/22/2007 1:05:14 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: .cnI redruM

as well as the old adage "it is better to give than receive."


13 posted on 01/22/2007 1:05:19 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: .cnI redruM
40 years ago they would have described Brokeback Mountain this way.
14 posted on 01/22/2007 1:05:36 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

I know! It makes my skin crawl...


15 posted on 01/22/2007 1:06:22 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Now that's a horse of a different color...

Remember when a man on horseback was merely a symbol of rank authoritarianism?


16 posted on 01/22/2007 1:07:27 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: NonValueAdded

I heard the equine was"hung like a horse".


17 posted on 01/22/2007 1:09:09 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: .cnI redruM

Mr. Ed, why are you smoking a cigarette with your owner?

Don't you two know that's bad for you guys?


18 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:08 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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This stuff is getting more revolting by the day! Compared to this, "Brokeback Mountain" would be considered a "wholesome movie for the whole family."

19 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: .cnI redruM
I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes.

Well, as long as they aren't smoking cigarettes or being Global Warming skeptics, most anything goes. ;~((

20 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:30 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Borges

Smallpox vaccines.


21 posted on 01/22/2007 1:12:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ditto
They need to reread their Freud. "Sometimes a cigarette is just a cigarette."
22 posted on 01/22/2007 1:13:03 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: camle
"actually, it's horse-on-man, not the other way around."

Man dies after sex with horse
19/07/2005 07:54 - (SA)

San Francisco - A man died of internal injuries from sex with a stallion at a ranch used by a bestiality ring, police in the northwestern United States state of Washington said on Monday.

The man suffered fatal trauma while being sodomised by a stallion at a stud farm that catered to men who wanted sex with animals, Enumclaw Police Commander Eric Sortland told AFP.

"Basically, his colon was ruptured, along with his lower organs in that region, and he bled out," Sortland said.

IBZ

23 posted on 01/22/2007 1:16:04 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: .cnI redruM
Devor’s decent...

He is?

24 posted on 01/22/2007 1:18:04 PM PST by decimon
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To: .cnI redruM
Devor’s decent...

He is?

25 posted on 01/22/2007 1:18:07 PM PST by decimon
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To: robertpaulsen; Riverman94610

I recall when it happenned, the horse 'got' him good. killed him and there wasn't much that could be done since is wasn't against the law. they changed that, and there is a case a couple fo months ago that was going through the system of bestiality.

we call it 'perv of teh week'. this is a runnign episode, been going on for a while.


26 posted on 01/22/2007 1:19:08 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: wagglebee
"This stuff is getting more revolting by the day! Compared to this, "Brokeback Mountain" would be considered a "wholesome movie for the whole family."




Both categories are depraved! Not only depraved, they are barbaric!! Animals have more common sense and decency than these supposed humans do! Progressive is most certainly the wrong name for their movement, they would have us descend to a time pre-prehistoric cave man.
27 posted on 01/22/2007 1:19:26 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: robertpaulsen

I remember the FR threads after that story was posted.

Yuck.

I'd go look 'em up for reference, but the images are just too sickening.

Yuck, again.


28 posted on 01/22/2007 1:19:39 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: decimon
Wow! I sure blew that one. Descent would have been L' Mot Juste.
29 posted on 01/22/2007 1:21:21 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Free enterprise will pave the road to the stars!)
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To: Borges

"It will be interesting to see if Hollywood buys this." They bought homosexuality and now even have made a movie about pedophilia. I can't believe how disgustingly low this crowd is sinking!


30 posted on 01/22/2007 1:23:10 PM PST by JLGALT (Get ready - Lock and Load!)
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To: wagglebee
"Hey! What are all you people so scared of?"*

*Typical liberal response to any form of depravity.

31 posted on 01/22/2007 1:23:14 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: gidget7

Maybe some of the horses will start kicking the sodomites and their ability to violate the horses will be eliminated!


32 posted on 01/22/2007 1:24:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: .cnI redruM

"A grate has to be installed above the sewer." Too late. The democrap party depends upong deviancy for empowerment. Paging Bawney Fwanks, bill clinton, ted the swimmer, etc.


33 posted on 01/22/2007 1:26:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: JLGALT
The movie about pedophilia with Dakota Fanning? Both that and this...and any movie playing at Sundance is not Hollywood by definition. That's why they are being shopped around at Sundance...hoping Hollywood...or someone...buys them and distributes them.
34 posted on 01/22/2007 1:33:11 PM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM

Just another B to add to the GLBT alliance. The P is also just around the corner.


35 posted on 01/22/2007 1:35:29 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: .cnI redruM
You would have to be a hellava man.

36 posted on 01/22/2007 1:36:04 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: .cnI redruM

I forgot to warn everybody to avoid beastophobic comments or risk being called a bigot.


37 posted on 01/22/2007 1:36:52 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: .cnI redruM
Added SUNDANCE as a keyword.

Click it and see why...

This was a good thread: Sundance with the Devil

The Hollyweird perversion that comes from Sundance is just obscene. What's next? A 12 year old being raped?

Ooops. Been there. Done that

38 posted on 01/22/2007 1:37:20 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: JZelle

By and large being idiotice lefties, PETA probably has nothing but praise for this sick crap. All lefties are sick distorted people.


39 posted on 01/22/2007 1:45:44 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A lot of the stuff that plays at sundance never sees the inside of a movie theater.


40 posted on 01/22/2007 1:58:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM
the film permits us to examine where we draw the line, how much perversity we can tolerate in others.

Yes, how much evil can we tolerate in others? That would be a measure of our moral cowardice.

41 posted on 01/22/2007 1:59:50 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Borges

Wasn't Brokeback Mountain a Sundance film?

And that Al Gore POS?

I can't remember. I pay as much attention to this garbage as I do to whether Paris Hilton pleads not guilty, or if Lindsay Lohan is in rehab or if Rosie is scarfing down 5 enchiladas and calling Trump some names again.

Someone tell me again how this is a multi-billion dollar industry?????


42 posted on 01/22/2007 2:05:24 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

'Brokeback Mountain' premiered at the Venice Film Festival. Redford's whole idea behind Sundance was to display films that initially couldn't get Hollywood backing. How is the publishing industry so big with so many bad books? It's a large industry.


43 posted on 01/22/2007 2:12:52 PM PST by Borges
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To: robertpaulsen

Good riddance.

And why aren't the PETA nazis protesting this? Maybe they figure the horses like it, so no problem.


44 posted on 01/22/2007 2:20:52 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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On most moral issues, I’d probably aggravate a healthy plurality of the modern Conservative Movement. I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes. It's just that there has to be a limit to the level of acceptable behavior somewhere. A grate has to be installed above the sewer.

Excuse me, but by turning your head to homosexuality, you are allowing in the next things; like incest and beastiality and child molestation.

I guess we dont need to ask if it was a young horse?....

45 posted on 01/22/2007 2:24:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: robertpaulsen

No, fourty years ago, this is how they described Rosemary's Baby!


46 posted on 01/22/2007 2:25:08 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: .cnI redruM
"We have successfully defined deviancy down to the bedrock and don’t have a sharp enough drill bit to sink it any lower."

Don't bet on it.

47 posted on 01/22/2007 2:29:11 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: .cnI redruM
I'm glad I'M not a sick puppy!

What's next?

Tijuana donkeys??

48 posted on 01/22/2007 2:36:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RaceBannon

There were walk outs at the initial 1951 screenings of 'A Streetcar Named Desire' claiming that Hollywood had sank to ann all time low of perversion.


49 posted on 01/22/2007 2:39:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM

Why this is happening...

Romans 1:21-32 Because that, when THEY KNEW GOD, they GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And CHANGED the glory of the uncorruptible God into an IMAGE made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

-->> Wherefore GOD ALSO GAVE THEM UP TO uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

-->> And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


50 posted on 01/22/2007 2:56:33 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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