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The dilemma of a deadly disease: patients may be forcibly detained
The Guardian ^ | Tuesday January 23, 2007 | Chris McGreal in Johannesburg and Sarah Boseley, health editor

Posted on 01/22/2007 7:29:09 PM PST by happygrl

Doctors fear TB strain could cause a global pandemic if it is not controlled

South Africa is considering forcibly detaining people who carry a deadly strain of tuberculosis that has already claimed hundreds of lives. The strain threatens to cause a global pandemic, but the planned move pits public protection against human rights. The country's health department says it has discussed with the World Health Organisation and South Africa's leading medical organisations the possibility of placing carriers of extreme drug resistant TB or XDR-TB under guard in isolation wards until they die, but has yet to reach a decision.

More than 300 cases of the highly infectious disease, which is spread by airborne droplets and kills 98% of those infected within about two weeks, have been identified in South Africa.

But doctors believe there have been hundreds, possibly thousands, more and the numbers are growing among the millions of people with HIV, who are particularly vulnerable to the disease. Their fear is that patients with XDR-TB, told that there is little that can be done for them, will leave the isolation wards and go home to die. But while they are still walking around they risk spreading the infection.

Now a group of doctors has warned in a medical journal that if enforced isolation is not introduced XDR-TB could swamp South Africa and spread far beyond its borders....

Pandemic

Jerome Amir Singh of the Centre for Aids Programme of Research in South Africa and two colleagues wrote in the peer-reviewed journal Public Library of Science Medicine that the government must overcome its understandable qualms over human rights in the interests of the majority. Without exceptional control measures, including enforced isolation, XDR-TB "could become a lethal global pandemic", they say.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: communicabledisease; pandemic; tuburculosis
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This is not a theoretical avian flu.

This is NOW.

1 posted on 01/22/2007 7:29:10 PM PST by happygrl
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To: happygrl

One missing fact, not in the article, that would be worth knowing: How infectious is this, and what is the differential rate of infection for non-HIV people versus those with HIV? Clearly, if these rates aren't dramatically different, this is a very bad bug.


2 posted on 01/22/2007 7:35:20 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: happygrl
the planned move pits public protection against human rights.

"Human rights" be damned! Government represents the collective, and has the duty of protecting that collective. If it fails in that duty, then the collective will protect itself. And in that eventuality, detainment is the least of these Typhoid Marys' worries.

3 posted on 01/22/2007 7:36:26 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: happygrl

There is no "human right" to go around infecting thousands of people with a deadly disease that you have.


4 posted on 01/22/2007 7:42:56 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: happygrl

It also doesn't indicate whether this strain is immune to prior vaccination.

There have been a few cases of AIDS-related TB in New York in the past, I think. No idea whether this is anything similar.

It's hard for us to tell South Africa that they should isolate these patients, when we have passed laws in the U.S. that effectively let people spread AIDS as they please.


5 posted on 01/22/2007 7:45:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: happygrl
More than 300 cases of the highly infectious disease, which is spread by airborne droplets and kills 98% of those infected within about two weeks, have been identified in South Africa.

When numbers like these are reported they rarely turn out to be true.

As is reported in the article many of the TB victims are also infected with AIDS. Many of the AIDS patients in SA do not take their medication and sell it. They also do not stay on their treatment so that they can continue to receive disability payments.

These numbers also more than likely only count hospitalize TB patients.

Because the majority of these TB suffers are also AIDS patients it is to be expected that the disease would be fatal.

6 posted on 01/22/2007 7:51:11 PM PST by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Cicero
It also doesn't indicate whether this strain is immune to prior vaccination.

I didn't think there is a vaccine for TB. I thought it was cured by antibiotics? Of course, nothing cures this brand.

7 posted on 01/22/2007 7:55:17 PM PST by Gritty (People long sheltered from mortal dangers can indulge themselves believing there are none-T. Sowell)
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To: IronJack
"Human rights" be damned! Government represents the collective, and has the duty of protecting that collective.

Wow! Were you raised in the Soviet Union? That statement is pure totalitarian communist credo! Our Constitution is all about the rights of the individual. Would you like to restate your position?

8 posted on 01/22/2007 8:22:39 PM PST by balls (Religion is the root of all evil)
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To: neverdem

ping


9 posted on 01/22/2007 8:26:59 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

the problem is that some people who catch it will die without treatment.

Those who are poorly nourished, have lung problems, or have HIV have trouble fighting off the infection. Most can be treated with drugs, but with HIV, your body's own immune system can't fight it off....so the germ ends up resistant.

Usually we treat with simply more drugs (In the "good old days" it was two or three. The last lady I treated, not HIV positive but an alcoholic, was treated with five drugs just in case...

The only way to keep this from spreading is to put them in TB sanitariums like the old days.

Alas,manypeople don't know they have it and spread it...and in South Africa, the miners live in dormatories where lung disease can spread quickly.


10 posted on 01/22/2007 8:58:25 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: happygrl

There's no dilemma here: when you have people carrying a highly infectious and deadly disease, you prevent them from spreading it by whatever means are necessary.

And while I wasn't writing about HIV, I could have been...


11 posted on 01/22/2007 9:20:25 PM PST by Redbob
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To: traviskicks

thanks, bfl


12 posted on 01/22/2007 9:37:31 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: happygrl

So why is this not getting the hoopla that attends the mere mention of the avian flu? Any guesses?


13 posted on 01/22/2007 9:43:52 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Especially when death comes in about two weeks. It's not as though these are silent carriers who would be locked up for years while waiting for the disease to manifest.


14 posted on 01/22/2007 9:44:42 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: happygrl
Also of importance is preventing those factors that lead to infectious TB and these are poverty, poor housing, overcrowding and poor nutrition and any other factors that weakens patients' resistance to acquiring infections
( from the article)
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AIDS....That is the the "factor" "that weakens patient's resistance to acquiring infections."

HIV infected individuals, with their reduced immunity, and their often promiscuous and/or drug addicted lifestyles, are walking petri dishes of communicable diseases that can and do infect the general public. TB is one of those diseases.

HIV and TB are commonly found together. If you do not believe this do a Google search on the words: Google and TB.
15 posted on 01/22/2007 9:57:22 PM PST by GaltTrader
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To: wouldntbprudent
Perhpas because we associate tuberculosis with marginal populations the poor, overcrowded, already medically stressed.

Not that that isn't true.

But I had middle class friends in California whose children had to take medication for tuburculosis. They had been exposed to the disease, probably at school.

16 posted on 01/22/2007 10:11:02 PM PST by happygrl
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To: balls

Sorry, but right here in the United States we used to have quarantines.

No, you do not have the right to spread higly contagious lethal bacteria and viuses around.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 4:03:24 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: happygrl

Governments will love the latest expansion of power. Once this catches on, imagine how many people will be "detained" for the common cold.


18 posted on 01/23/2007 4:09:22 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: happygrl

This is bad news indeed.


19 posted on 01/23/2007 4:33:12 AM PST by djf (Democracy - n, def: The group that gets PAID THE MOST ends up VOTING THE MOST See: TRAGEDY)
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To: happygrl

thanks for posting this, it sounds SCARY.


20 posted on 01/23/2007 4:34:50 AM PST by xsmommy
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