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Girl Kicked Off Plane After Tantrum
Associated Press ^ | Jan 23, 2007 | JimEllis

Posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:25 PM PST by don'tspeak4me

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Flight attendants often deal with obnoxious passengers who won't listen to instructions by kicking them off the plane. But a Massachusetts couple think AirTran Airways went overboard by treating their crying 3-year-old daughter in much the same way.

Julie and Gerry Kulesza and daughter Elly were removed from the flight when the girl refused to take her seat before takeoff, airline officials said Tuesday. But her parents said they just needed a little more time to calm her down.

The Kuleszas planned to fly home to Boston on Jan. 14 from Fort Myers after a four-day visit with the girl's paternal grandparents. She was removed because "she was climbing under the seat and hitting the parents and wouldn't get in her seat" during boarding, AirTran spokeswoman Judy Graham-Weaver said.

AirTran officials say they were only following Federal Aviation Administration rules that children age 2 and above must have their own seat and be wearing a seatbelt upon takeoff.

"The flight was already delayed 15 minutes and in fairness to the other 112 passengers on the plane, the crew made an operational decision to remove the family," Graham-Weaver said.

But Julie Kulesza said: "We weren't giving an opportunity to hold her, console her or anything."

"Elly was sitting in front of our seat crying," she said in a phone interview. "The attendant motioned to a seat and asked if we purchased it for her."

They had paid for the seat. Gerry Kulesza said another attendant then approached the family and told him: "You need to get her in control and in her seat."

The couple told the attendants they were trying. Julie Kulesza said she asked the attendants if Elly could sit on her lap, but they said no.

The family flew home the next day.

The Orlando-based carrier reimbursed the family $595.80, the cost of the three tickets, and offered them three roundtrip tickets anywhere the airline flies, Graham-Weaver said.

But that's too little, too late for the Kuleszas. The father said they would never fly AirTran again.


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1 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:27 PM PST by don'tspeak4me
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To: don'tspeak4me

With all due respect to the family first of all

With flight attendant sit your a** down you better after Sept 11 you better sit your brat down


2 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:02 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: don'tspeak4me
But Julie Kulesza said: "We weren't giving an opportunity to hold her, console her or anything."

The flight was delayed for 15 mins. What a crock. No wonder the kid behaved like that.

3 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: don'tspeak4me
I did a quick search and didn't see this article posted.

I remember back in the day...my momma would have opened an industrial-sized can of whoop ass on me if I even hinted at acting this way.

4 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:35 PM PST by don'tspeak4me
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To: don'tspeak4me

Sounds to me as if they should have toss the parents off the flight and told them never to return.


5 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:42 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: don'tspeak4me

Could be a good reason to fly AirTran. And a note to the parents: if you cannot control a child at that age, you are completely out of luck when the kid turns 13. And yes, we have raised two children.


6 posted on 01/23/2007 7:37:46 PM PST by trimom
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To: SevenofNine
With flight attendant sit your a** down you better after Sept 11 you better sit your brat down

Could you translate that, please?

7 posted on 01/23/2007 7:39:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: don'tspeak4me

I'm a parent of five kids, three of them still of tantrum age. My guess is, they deserved it.


8 posted on 01/23/2007 7:40:50 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: don'tspeak4me

In the old days, you'd be so embarrassed you couldn't control your kids, you'd just quietly go away...not anymore.


9 posted on 01/23/2007 7:41:18 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Exactly. The airline should have beat them to the punch by inviting the family to never fly with them again.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

10 posted on 01/23/2007 7:42:27 PM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: don'tspeak4me

Typical MA liberal permissive parents... "honey, you're making daddy sad when you kick the nice flight attendant, please don't make daddy sad, ok honey? if you don't stop pouring water on the people in front of you, you might get a time out, ok? this is your 1st warning and you only have seven left..."


11 posted on 01/23/2007 7:42:43 PM PST by crystalclear9823
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To: don'tspeak4me

Duct tape works wonders. (Never had to use any on my kids but mine were raised proper.)


12 posted on 01/23/2007 7:43:09 PM PST by roadcat
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To: don'tspeak4me

Seems appropriate to me. This wreaks of parents who are afraid to discipline their child.


13 posted on 01/23/2007 7:43:18 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: don'tspeak4me

YEAAAH.

She wasn't kicked off for a mere "tantrum", but because she wouldn't take her seat.

Good for the airline.


14 posted on 01/23/2007 7:43:29 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: don'tspeak4me

I think the parents are idiots.

They bought a seat for their daughter. It appears they had two seats together and one separate. Why did they put their daughter in the separate seat. Why wasn't the daughter with one parent and the other parent in the single seat.

Did I read it wrong?


15 posted on 01/23/2007 7:44:25 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: don'tspeak4me

These parents are pathetic! I'd be ashamed if my child acted like that. ASHAMED AND HUMILIATED.


16 posted on 01/23/2007 7:45:11 PM PST by Humidston
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To: don'tspeak4me
The father said they would never fly AirTran again.

Good. I don't ever have to worry about putting up with the little brat.

17 posted on 01/23/2007 7:45:41 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: LadyDoc

One more good reason for keeping the nanny government from being able to tell us that we can't spank our kids.


18 posted on 01/23/2007 7:46:59 PM PST by bannie
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To: metmom

all of his are like that...figure his wording and it's fun to read...jaw drop grinning occures too.


19 posted on 01/23/2007 7:48:10 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: don'tspeak4me
The father said they would never fly AirTran again.

Then I surely will!

I'm continually amazed by the lack of parental control nowadays. I have a good friend, he and his wife are great people. But they have a 3 year old son who completely rules them. I mean they are totally slaves to his every whim. My friend is a big guy with a short fuse who doesn't take crap from anyone - except this kid. He will literally ask/tell the child to do (or not do) the smallest thing and the kid will look right at him and defy him, as my friend just slumps his shoulders and caves. It's really sad.
20 posted on 01/23/2007 7:48:46 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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