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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative -- And an electable one, at that.
City Journal ^ | Winter, 07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:08 PM PST by Sunsong

Not since Teddy Roosevelt took on Tammany Hall a century ago has a New York politician closely linked to urban reform looked like presidential timber. But today ex–New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sits at or near the top of virtually every poll of potential 2008 presidential candidates. Already, Giuliani’s popularity has set off a “stop Rudy” movement among cultural conservatives, who object to his three marriages and his support for abortion rights, gay unions, and curbs on gun ownership. Some social conservatives even dismiss his achievement in reviving New York before 9/11. An August story on the website Right Wing News, for instance, claims that Giuliani governed Gotham from “left of center.” Similarly, conservatives have been feeding the press a misleading collection of quotations by and about Giuliani, on tax policy and school choice issues, assembled to make him look like a liberal.

But in a GOP presidential field in which cultural and religious conservatives may find something to object to in every candidate who could really get nominated (and, more important, elected), Giuliani may be the most conservative candidate on a wide range of issues. Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering. The private economy, not government, creates opportunity, he argued; government should just deliver basic services well and then get out of the private sector’s way. He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives....

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To: Graybeard58
Well, that just frosts my b****, I'm "against" him and I'm not getting paid. Where do I sign up?

Shiite, I'd bust on Rudy for free beer.

101 posted on 01/24/2007 6:41:53 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: DocH
RINO-LOVING DOLT. Preisdent......

It's usually best when using insults reflecting on a posters mental ability to spell correctly the word directly following your accusation.

Here's the graphic.

Click on photo

102 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:12 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Rex Anderson
"Fred Thompson is not running, babygene."

Have you ask him? Do you have inside information?

In the past, we've never known this early who was running. Many of us didn't know Bush was running until just before the primaries...
103 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:40 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Graybeard58
I'm "against" him and I'm not getting paid. Where do I sign up?

Same here. When you find out how to get paid, let me know. Would you?

104 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:41 PM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Dreagon
It's amazing how people are trying to sell us on this guy.

Look at who posted it... that will tell you all you need to know.

105 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:47 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: colorcountry
You've grown into quite the gentleman.

You can fool some of the people some of the time...

106 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:55 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: srmorton

Mary Bono is all over the map...a Liberal Republican Scientologist who is prolife and a feminist. Confused the hellout of most folks...


107 posted on 01/24/2007 6:43:51 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: babygene

I like the Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue. Lots I don't know about him though.


108 posted on 01/24/2007 6:44:02 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: tomcorn

"What I love about this thread is it is sure to test the creative spirit of wild ass hyperbole."

What on earth are you talking about?


109 posted on 01/24/2007 6:44:47 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: EagleUSA
We need one. Badly. And a fighting conservative at that -- not another "compasionate conservative"..

If we can't get the Republicans in the house and senate to support the compassionate conservative currently in the White House, how the heck are we supposed to get an ultra conservative elected?

110 posted on 01/24/2007 6:44:49 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: ASA Vet
Obviously, my fingers were moving too fast to spell "President" correctly... my bust.

Again, I like your graphic but wish someone would post the RINO screwing the Elephant (one that REALLY tells it like it is), and in a MUCH BIGGER size that I usually see it.

111 posted on 01/24/2007 6:45:54 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Sunsong
Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative --

Oh, I get it! This is from the Scrappleface, right?

112 posted on 01/24/2007 6:47:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (For babies, the threat from terrorists pales next to the threat from Planned Barrenhood knives)
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To: Republic Rocker
I have made up my mind to wait for the primaries. Many of us may be surprised at who is chosen to lead the party in '08. It may very well be Rudy, McCain, Romney or Newt.

I goes against everything that research has dug up in the last 2 years, to even hope for a strong Conservative to get the nomination. The public image of Conservatives is even lower than that of attorneys, Congress or carrion eating vermin.

With over a third of the voting population now voting as independents or swing, and both Party bases are easily out numbered, it is not difficult to realize what group the next Presidential election will be decided by.

Giuliani polls very, repeat VERY highly among this group. This is a group of voters who could care less if the guy is a cross dressing pro choice social moderate from New York or if he runs naked through Central Park every night. They'll still vote for him because of the his likability and past undeniably solid record in Executive management ability.
113 posted on 01/24/2007 6:47:28 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks, AM. Many of those were over the top.

Wrangling up the the primaries is supposed to be rugby, not Celebrity Deathmatch (although I must confess I'd love to see Chuck Hagel in the claymation ring with Ozzy Osborne and a chainsaw).

114 posted on 01/24/2007 6:48:38 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: JennysCool
"Those "conservative" voters who want everything and want it now just went and got us a Democrat Congress. "

That is 100% lie but keep saying it and you might start to believe that Macacca

Macacca is a dismissive epithet used by francophone colonials in Central Africa's Belgian Congo for the native population.[2] It may be derived from the name of the genus comprising macaque monkeys. The word macaque has also been used as a racial slur. The macaque's genus name, Macaca, is a latinization of the Bantu (Kongo) ma-kako,[3] meaning "monkey".

In the United States, the term was at the center of a controversy during the 2006 United States Senate election in Virginia when it was used by the Republican incumbent, George Allen. Relating to the Allen controversy, "Macaca" was named the most politically incorrect word of 2006 on December 15 by Global Language Monitor, a nonprofit group that studies word usage.

 

Rep. Foley Quits In Page Scandal
Explicit Online Notes Sent to Boy, 16

Six-term Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) resigned yesterday amid reports that he had sent sexually explicit Internet messages to at least one underage male former page.

Foley, who was considered likely to win reelection this fall, said in a three-sentence letter of resignation: "I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent."

115 posted on 01/24/2007 6:48:43 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: freedomfiter2
"We haven't had a conservative senate in my lifetime."

And we aren't likely to pick up about 20 MORE conservative Senators in mine!

Rudy would be the end of the Republican party if elected with a Republican House and Senate. (Look what President Bush has done.) He'd be right in step with a Democrat House and Senate IMO and that would be a disaster for conservatives too.

116 posted on 01/24/2007 6:49:42 PM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: Sunsong

Let's see now, Rudy's pro abortion, pro gay marriage, pro adultery, anti gun, pro illegal immigration. Gee, he's EVERYTHING that I DETEST in a person, so I guess that's a big NO for me.


117 posted on 01/24/2007 6:49:42 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Sunsong

Great article, bookmarked.


118 posted on 01/24/2007 6:50:11 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here)
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To: Afronaut

So, i gather you're one of those "disgruntled voters" who lost it for us.


119 posted on 01/24/2007 6:51:23 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Sunsong
Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative --

Look at who posted this big moose steamer... that will tell you all you need to know.

120 posted on 01/24/2007 6:51:42 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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