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9 convicted in Long Beach hate crime beatings (Halloween incident; not PC)
daily breeze ^ | 1-26-07 | Manzer

Posted on 01/26/2007 4:32:40 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: TNCMAXQ
"This was just last October and verdicts are in already? That seems very fast."

This was in juvenile court, so things can move pretty fast. There is no right to a jury and there is no media allowed inside the hearings.

41 posted on 01/26/2007 7:18:22 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: paratrooper82
"Something really smells in this case, because, if in fact these black teenager where in fact charged with a s called "hate crime" then they would have been prosecuted in Federal Court, since, hate crime legislation is Federal."

The best reason I can think of is that because these are juveniles, it is going to be left up to the State courts and not the Federal Courts. Even if for some reason these trials went to Federal Court, the Feds are not set up in their system to handle juveniles. Bottom line is that the Feds don't want to get involved in juvenile trials.

42 posted on 01/26/2007 7:20:44 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Michael.SF.
I wrote accused because the person offered the scholarship may have been found not guilty. One wasn't, after all.
43 posted on 01/26/2007 7:43:58 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: paratrooper82

Juvenile court is, I suspect, the reason.


44 posted on 01/26/2007 7:53:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
fair enough.
45 posted on 01/26/2007 10:00:20 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It's time our lawmakers paid more attention to their responsibilities, and less to their privileges.)
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To: doug from upland
The LOS ANGELES TIMES did not even report it for a month.

That's because to that pathetic, dying rag this was a "dog bites man" story - - nothing newsworthy.

46 posted on 01/26/2007 10:05:13 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: doug from upland

This happened in my neighborhood. Weird to see it talked about internationally, but I am very glad justice was served and the news about this SOMEHOW finally got out. I hope some of them do have longer sentences than "time served."


47 posted on 01/26/2007 10:10:42 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: TNCMAXQ

The cases have to go before a judge quickly in juvenile cases apparently.


48 posted on 01/26/2007 10:11:50 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

The Press-Telegram did very well, I think. They managed to keep this on the front pages even though the city council and other public officials publicly stated that they wanted to keep the press away. "This kind of thing could NOT HAPPEN in our fair city" type of thing.


49 posted on 01/26/2007 10:13:31 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

You would be correct (some gang connections). The victims' reps did want to get that entered into the trial but it wasn't. One of the juvenile perps had, on her MySpace page, a photo of her little 5-year-old brother throwing gang signs. Oh, and the signs just HAPPENED to be of the same exact gang that rammed and totalled the car of the good black teen witness on the day she testified.


50 posted on 01/26/2007 10:16:47 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: doug from upland

Cherrale: "The youths have not been able to keep up with their school work..."

The school district would have issued Independent Learning Contracts upon parental/student request.

If the teens were given Independent Learning Contracts to fulfill academic requirements..then it was up to the teens to manage their time to complete their work.


51 posted on 01/26/2007 10:17:47 PM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The one not guilty was 12. I doubt she had a scholarship.


52 posted on 01/26/2007 10:17:47 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Yaelle
I hope some of them do have longer sentences than "time served."

I'm betting on probation and some half-assed sensitivity training B.S. They should get 20 years and have their families sued to poverty.

53 posted on 01/26/2007 10:22:14 PM PST by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.

As minors, the worst they can get is confinement in Youth Authority until they are 25.


54 posted on 01/26/2007 10:25:18 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Check out the biased story from the LA Times on Drudge.


55 posted on 01/27/2007 6:47:31 AM PST by khnyny
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To: doug from upland

Sorry Doug, I missed that detail.


56 posted on 01/27/2007 9:34:11 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Wouldn't it be classic if street gangs offered scholarships to their deserving members?


57 posted on 01/27/2007 9:54:59 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: paratrooper82

"Something really smells in this case, because, if in fact these black teenager where in fact charged with a s called "hate crime" then they would have been prosecuted in Federal Court, since, hate crime legislation is Federal."<<<<<<<<<

Section 422.75 of the CA PC calls for this enhancement of a felony if the crime is based on racial motive.


58 posted on 01/27/2007 8:06:26 PM PST by Mjaye (Some folks close their mouth only long enough to change feet.)
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To: Mjaye

It has to be because this was juvenile court.


59 posted on 01/28/2007 7:05:00 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: volunbeer

How are the kids supposed to accept responsibility when their parents are still brainwashing them with racism?

I don't get it. Your kid beats someone up, but the KID is a victim of racism? It doesn't make sense. Make them take responsibility for what they have done.


60 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:36 PM PST by brwnsuga
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