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Looking back at the Confederacy with modern eyes
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | January 22, 2007 | JERRY PATTERSON (Texas Land Commisioner)

Posted on 01/26/2007 6:05:29 PM PST by Dog Gone

Any attempt to judge our history by today's standards -- out of the context in which it occurred -- is at best problematic and at worst dishonest.

For example, consider the following quotations:

"So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that slavery is abolished."

"[T]here is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality."

By today's standards, the person who made the first statement, Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, would be considered enlightened. The person who made the second, President Abraham Lincoln, would be considered a white supremacist.

Many believe that the War Between the States was solely about slavery and that the Confederacy is synonymous with racism. That conclusion is faulty because the premise is inaccurate.

If slavery had been the sole or even the predominant issue in sparking the Civil War, this statement by Lincoln is puzzling: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slaves I would do it."

If preserving slavery was the South's sole motive for waging war, why did Lee free his slaves before the war began? In 1856, he said slavery was "a moral and political evil in any country."

Why was Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation effective in 1863 rather than when the war started in 1861? And why did it free only the slaves in the Confederacy and not in Northern or border states?

If slavery was the only reason for the Civil War, how do you explain Texas Gov. Sam Houston's support for the Union and for the institution of slavery? In light of the fact that 90 percent of Confederate soldiers owned no slaves, is it logical to assume they would have put their own lives at risk so that slave-owning aristocrats could continue their privileged status?

There are few simple and concise answers to these questions.

One answer, however, is that most Southerners' allegiance was to their sovereign states first and the Union second. They believed that states freely joined the Union without coercion and were free to leave.

You could say they really believed in the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution -- the "powers not delegated" clause. They believed that the federal government should be responsible for the common defense, a postal service and little else. They viewed the Union Army as an invader, not an emancipator.

I am not attempting to trivialize slavery. It is a dark chapter in our history, North and South alike.

However, I am a proud Southerner and a proud descendent of Confederate soldiers. I honor their service because, to me, it represents the sacrifice of life and livelihood that Southerners made for a cause more important to them than their personal security and self-interest.

I'm aware of the genocidal war conducted by my country against the American Indian, but I'm still a proud American. And I'm also aware of the atrocities that occurred at My Lai, but I am proud of my service as a Marine in Vietnam.

If the Confederate flag represented slavery, the U.S. flag must represent slavery even more so.

Slavery existed for four years under the Stars and Bars and for almost 100 years under the Stars and Stripes.

If the few hundred members of racist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan want to adopt the Confederate flag as their symbol, over the objections of millions of Southerners, should we believe it has been corrupted for all time?

Given that the KKK has adopted the cross for its burnings, should churches across the country remove this symbol of Christian faith from all places of worship?

Should we diminish the service of the Buffalo Soldiers (black U.S. cavalry troopers of the late 1800s) because they were an integral part of a war that subjugated and enslaved the Plains Indians?

No. We should not surrender the Confederate flag or the cross to the racists, and we should not tear down the monuments.

Retroactive cleansing of history is doomed to failure because it is, at heart, a lie. We should memorialize and commemorate all of our soldiers who served honorably -- those who wore blue or gray or served as Buffalo Soldiers -- whether or not we in today's enlightened world completely support their actions.


Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. As a state senator, he sponsored legislation establishing the Juneteenth Commission for the purpose of funding a Juneteenth monument on the Texas Capitol grounds.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dixie; neoconfederate; revisionisthistory; veryrevisionist; wbs
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To: Non-Sequitur
Then how can a federal government power-grab be the reason for the Southern rebellion?

Because then, as now, politicians act differently in DC than they do at home. Politicians tend to become more in favor of big government in DC, regardless of where they're from. It's no different now.

201 posted on 01/30/2007 4:51:57 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: Dog Gone

bump


202 posted on 01/30/2007 5:04:41 AM PST by albee (Okay. so he missed aThe best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: stainlessbanner
Union states are commonly referred to as Northern. Simple.

Not in the 1860s they weren't. Calling them Northern today is just another game you neo-confederates play to deceive the historically ignorant and I have seen that game played hundreds of times on these threads.

203 posted on 01/30/2007 5:15:39 AM PST by Ditto
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To: stainlessbanner
Try asking it this way: If the Union was fighting to free slaves, were there any Union Slave states?

That is your straw man, not mine. No knowledgeable person would ever say that the Union went to war in 1861 to free the slaves any more than one would say we went into WWII to save the Jews.

204 posted on 01/30/2007 5:19:14 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sorry...on my way to my goverment class...hope to get back to you soon.

best - Van

205 posted on 01/30/2007 5:27:10 AM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army, 1967-1991, Infantry OCS Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning)
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To: Van Jenerette

I look forward to it.


206 posted on 01/30/2007 5:32:21 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: calex59
The firing on Fort Sumptner was contrived so as to start a war and bring the southern states back into the Union.

And I suppose the attack on Pearl Harbor was "contrived" to start WWII?

And the attack on 9/11 was "contrived" to start the War on Terror?

207 posted on 01/30/2007 5:40:29 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Terabitten

You are right. My bad...


208 posted on 01/30/2007 7:33:37 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Ditto
First of all, you said "States"

No I did not, go back and check. Further more if you look at a map of the mason Dixon line Delaware is on the "Northern" side. If you want to get technical the size of the state does not matter it is still a state. Missouri could be said to be a northern state, that is what the fight was about over the 36'30' parallel. If the Confederacy was not about slavery, were there any Confederate "Free States"? Can you name one?

I have never said there was. Now let me ask you a question, since the obliteration of the 10th Amendment are their now "any" free states, what so ever?
209 posted on 01/30/2007 5:37:36 PM PST by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Slave owners, particularly large slave owners, would oppose it as long as slavery was more profitable. Advances in technology would have changed that. It already made slavery uneconomical in the North, and it soon would have in the South.

The North held, or would soon hold solid majorities in Congress so they could have overridden objections from the South. I believe at one time Lincoln was thinking of issuing bonds to compensate loyal slave owners, which would have spread the cost out over decades.

You are absolutely right, everyone thought the war would be over in a matter of months.
210 posted on 01/30/2007 7:45:05 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Rock The Casbah (said the little AC130 gunship))
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To: Vietnam Vet From New Mexico
Slave owners, particularly large slave owners, would oppose it as long as slavery was more profitable. Advances in technology would have changed that. It already made slavery uneconomical in the North, and it soon would have in the South.

Doubtful. Cotton farming was labor intensive and harvesting it properly was difficult to mechanize. The first commercially successful mechanical cotton harvester wasn't introduced until the 1930's. And a large percentage of the slaves were domestic help. What mechanization would replace the cooks, maids, butlers, grooms, gardeners, and so forth?

The North held, or would soon hold solid majorities in Congress so they could have overridden objections from the South. I believe at one time Lincoln was thinking of issuing bonds to compensate loyal slave owners, which would have spread the cost out over decades.

The problem with a compensated emancipation system is that the slave owners would have to agree to be compensated. There was no interest on the part of Southern slave owners in ending the institution, through compensated means or otherwise.

211 posted on 01/31/2007 3:59:26 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
What mechanization would replace the cooks, maids, butlers, grooms, gardeners, and so forth?

A paycheck. These jobs here are why I don't understand your belief that slavery was a benefit to all white southernor's. Slavery deprived poor whites of these menial jobs, along with bricklayer,carpenter and other jobs that slaves did. This is why I have no belief that the average soldier fought to perpetuate slavery. Your one car in the family aiding all in the family doesn't apply here. Sorry, I know I have drifted off the subject and on to one from threads gone by.
212 posted on 01/31/2007 7:01:48 AM PST by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The problem with a compensated emancipation system is that the slave owners would have to agree to be compensated.

For this reason and financing is why the idea was to be implemented over 40 or 50 years. Some would have agreed right away, over time like most things most would have gotten on board. This would have solved other problems that Reconstruction caused. My Grandfather who was born in 1888, and kindled my interest in the WBTS claimed that Reconstruction was far more devastating to the south than the war was.
213 posted on 01/31/2007 7:16:47 AM PST by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: smug
For this reason and financing is why the idea was to be implemented over 40 or 50 years. Some would have agreed right away, over time like most things most would have gotten on board.

In any case you would have had the Federal Government telling the South what to do with their slaves. In other words the North telling the South what to do. Absent a Constitutional amendment, impossible to get ratified, it would have had to have been done through legislation. So how long do you think it would have taken for the South to sit back and accept such a violation of state's rights without rebelling?

This would have solved other problems that Reconstruction caused. My Grandfather who was born in 1888, and kindled my interest in the WBTS claimed that Reconstruction was far more devastating to the south than the war was.

Like what? Accepting the freed blacks as citizens with the same rights as whites? Allowing blacks to vote? Heck, you didn't see that for free blacks down South before the rebellion, what makes you think it would have happened regardless of the means of emancipation?

214 posted on 01/31/2007 8:58:09 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: smug
A paycheck. These jobs here are why I don't understand your belief that slavery was a benefit to all white southernor's. Slavery deprived poor whites of these menial jobs, along with bricklayer,carpenter and other jobs that slaves did.

I'm not aware that there was such a hue and cry from poor southern whites to do the work that slaves were doing before slavery ended. Can you point me to somewhere that details the plight of the poor white cottonpicker in 1850? Or the southern maiden who yearned for a job as a plantation cook but was kept out because of discrimination? Work done by blacks in the south carried a stigma for decades afterwards. Whites weren't interested in competing with blacks for jobs as maids or cooks or field hands and we all know it.

215 posted on 01/31/2007 9:06:05 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Terabitten
Because then, as now, politicians act differently in DC than they do at home. Politicians tend to become more in favor of big government in DC, regardless of where they're from. It's no different now.

To me that point touches on one prevalent misconception held by fans of the Confederacy. There was a federal government in Richmond too. And given the fact that it had to support a society based on suppressing a large segment of the residents, I believe it would have developed into something much more oppressive than anything we've ever seen out of Washington DC.

216 posted on 01/31/2007 9:17:27 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Non-Sequitur
Have you never heard of sharecroppers? Do you think they were all black?

Sounds like instead of mechanization, you want Mexicanation, doing the jobs poor whites won't do.
217 posted on 01/31/2007 8:38:32 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Rock The Casbah (said the little AC130 gunship))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Like what?

He was talking about the lawlessness, large hordes of newly freed blacks and homeless whites that roamed the countryside stealing and murdering with occupation troops turning a blind eye. Property being taken for failure to pay taxes set purposely above anyones ability to pay. Of course he learned all this from his father who was undoubtedly a bitter man that never asked for a pardon. I would like to learn more about Reconstruction. If you can suggest any books that accurately and neutrally account it I'd appreciate it.
218 posted on 02/01/2007 4:45:42 AM PST by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: Non-Sequitur

There are a number of books out there but I confess I haven't read any that specifically deal with the subject so I can't recommend a particular one.


219 posted on 02/01/2007 4:52:09 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dog Gone

bttt


220 posted on 02/01/2007 4:53:57 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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