Skip to comments.UN braced for clash with Russia on Kosovo (Russia defending Christians, US defending...UN?)
Posted on 01/29/2007 4:19:30 PM PST by kronos77
“The independence of Kosovo is a reality, so we demand recognition of Kosovo’s international subjectivity without any delays,” said Agim Ceku, its Prime Minister.
The main parties in the elections are opposed to independence for Kosovo, regarded as the cradle of Serb history and culture. Russia, Serbia’s traditional Orthodox Christian ally, has made it clear that it would not support any plan for Kosovo that went against Belgrade’s wishes.
“Russia believes it is unacceptable that a decision on the status of Kosovo be imposed from the outside,” said President Putin on Sunday.
As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia could block recognition of Kosovo’s independence.
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But I'd point out that your confusion precedes my response - we're no more going to hand Kosovo back to the Serbs than we are Iraq back to the Ba'athists.
Given that, drawing out the inevitable conclusion serves no useful purpose.
Furthermore, Albania is already a purportedly "Islamist" State with an economy still on the gray side, and how much trouble have we had with them?
Your premises are flawed, and your conclusions suffer as a result.
The current instability in Southern Europe is due to the push for Kosovo Independence. Should the push move from words to deed, then a shooting war will erupt.
That would be less stable, not more.
Serbs are as capable of building IEDs as are Iraqis, by the way, a considerable problem for the current "borderless" EU.
If you haven't been to Europe lately, there are no longer border stops between the EU nations, just as there are no border stops driving from California into Nevada.
This situation includes the active ETA Basque separatists in Spain and France...a group that has contracted out their talents in the past. Ditto for November 19 in Greece and the IRA in Ireland.
Greece in particular is sensitive to the Serb cause anyway, much less if France starts bombing Serbia (which is what France wants, as Chirac's plans include breaking up NATO).
If you're worried about the Serbs and their friends, well all I can say at this point is have fun with that. The war over Kosovo has already been fought and decisively lost by Serbia, and regardless of whatever noises come out of Belgrade, they know it.
It'll remain a talking point for the Serbian Radicals until they find something else with which to try and whip their supporters into a frenzy over - my money's on the Vojvodina Hungarians.
Iraq lost a war in 1991 and still manages to make trouble for us today. Germany lost a war in 1918 and managed to make quite a bit of trouble by 1939.
So your logic seems thin when you opine that by losing one war that the Serbs are suddenly harmless playthings who can have cities taken from them at our whim.
Moreover, your reason ("stability") for wanting to further break up Serbia makes little sense.
And none of your arguments offer anything for the U.S.
All that you would accomplish is Chirac's plan to break up NATO by causing grave divisions (e.g. between Greece and France, or between NATO and Russia) over a city that no one wants to so much as vacation in (Kosovo).
That's not good enough.
Right now Chirac is calling for the EU arms embargo against China to be lifted in the next 28 days. The timing is not accidental.
France is manuevering for a global realignment of the major powers. A fractious war over a useless city in the Balkans would only serve to further this Talyrand-itous by straining NATO.
Yet you are cheerleading for this very thing.
I'm entitled to not bother entertaining them past a certain point, which we've already passed.
Why the attitude?
I think our answers are in following the money.
saudi arabia is paying for a wahabi state.
Essentially it boils down to this
Independent Kossovo equals kill all christians.
You're worried about the Serb's response - I'm not.
Yes, but ignoring one entire side of a war has seldom been considered clever.
Of course - just like post-communist Albania equalled kill all christians.
Yer a smart one, aren't ya?
Especially if your side is the one which lost the war.
Yet Serbian politicians recently put forth a constitution which contained a clause concerning Kosovo which they knew was beyond their power to enforce and would soon be rendered absurd by events on the ground. And since they haven't communicated to their electorate what we've been telling them for the last 6 years, they've now got a constitution which will keep them out of NATO and the EU until they amend it.
Par for the course for the Serbs, unfortunately.
Keeping Serbia out of the EU or out of NATO is no big deal, as no shooting war would erupt over such a matter.
The same can't be said for taking one of their cities, though you seem flippant about it for some reason...even anxious or gleeful for the vent to occur.
An odd behavior. Are you willing to explain your background (e.g. are you French or Muslim or anti-NATO) in regard to why you would rush so joyfully into yet another European war?
Well, I'm out of guesses. How do *you* explain why you want Kosovo to be taken from Serbia even at the cost of war?
It'll make you look smart.
It's a question that needs to be addressed. Why do you want a city taken from another country at the risk of war?
What motivates you?
It's an unusual position for someone to take, yet you've taken it on enthusiastically.
So it shouldn't surprise you that it evokes legitimate questions.
Perhaps you simply don't want to answer it, though.
"Are you willing to explain your background (e.g. are you French or Muslim or anti-NATO) in regard to why you would rush so joyfully into yet another European war?"
No, he's a moron, plain and simple....
Par for the course for Hoplite, unfortunately.
With what? A bunch of yahoos with AK-47s?
Do not be so quick to dismiss the Serb Army.
The Serbian military currently has over 800 tanks, 1200 APC's, 2500 artillery pieces, countless anti-tank guns and missiles, and numerous anti-aircraft missiles and guns. While a lot of this equipment is old when compared to American weaponry, the Serb Army is still one of the most powerful in that corner of the globe.
I would much rather have them on our side than have them fighting against us.