Two New Books Confirm Global Warming is Natural; Not Caused By Human Activity

Drudge ^ | jan 30, 2007 | Matt Drudge

[Notwithstanding]

Two New Books Confirm Global Warming is Natural; Not Caused By Human Activity Tue Jan 30 2007 10:02:32 ET

Two powerful new books say today’s global warming is due not to human activity but primarily to a long, moderate solar-linked cycle. Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years, by physicist Fred Singer and economist Dennis Avery was released just before Christmas. The Chilling Stars: A New Theory of Climate Change, by Danish physicist Henrik Svensmark and former BBC science writer Nigel Calder (Icon Books), is due out in March. --- break --- Unstoppable Global Warming documents the reality of a moderate, natural, 1500-year climate cycle on the earth. The Chilling Stars explains the why and how.

[Notwithstanding]

ALL-STAR GROUP: 10 years to save the planet...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007050028,00.html

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

I heard Fred Singer being interviewed on a local talker. He's very good. I've been meaning to pick up his book. I think I'll do that tonight.

Maybe I can find a replay on line of the interview. I'll check.......

[Notwithstanding]

Climate change means hunger and thirst for billions: report

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/30/070130081454.ieaxdzu8.html

[saganite]

Singer's book will be dismissed by the greens because they say he's a shill for the oil industry. Don't know about the other guy.

[TBP]

Don't tell Algore.

[Holicheese]

Maybe Algore would want to debate this man. Maybe he will use his powerful brain to prove that he is the smartest man in the world. He did invent the internet you know.

[Notwithstanding]

Apparently God is still in charge, no?



Its not nice to fool Mother Nature, by the way.
(hat tip to Chiffon)

[Sword_Svalbardt]

already knew it was not caused by man's industrial involvement.

[Disturbin]

If that's true, we'll have to find another way to funnel wealth into third-world countries. I hope the socialists have a backup plan!

(something tells me they do)

[CedarDave]

PING for good news!!

[Phantom Lord]

ALL-STAR GROUP: 10 years to save the planet...

For how many decades have we had celebrities paraded infront of us telling us we only have 10 years to do X or we are all gonna die?

[TomGuy]

The Solar System seems to be going through a warming period. SUVs may have little to do with it:

Mars is Warming: NASA

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977

Mars Emerging from Ice Age: NASA

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html

Pluto Sees Global Warming: MIT

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

Global Warming on Jupiter: Hubble Telescope

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html

Neptune’s Moon Getting Warmer: Hubble Telescope

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/120259.stm

[CPT Clay]

"Not caused by human activity" bump

[Sax]

Do I look like I burn at a constantly stable rate without any fluctuations, cyclical or otherwise?

[The_Reader_David]

I didn't know about Svensmark until recently either, but his stuff is backed by experimental proof that cosmic ray tracks are important to cloud formation (a cooling effect).

Solar magnetism changes (the 1500 year cycle overlaid with the better known 11 year cycle) change the degree to which the earth is shielded from cosmic rays. Increasing solar magnetism leads to less cloud formation, leads to warmer climate. Svensmark estimates this effect alone can explain 85% of the change in average global temperature over the last 70 years. (And I'm not sure whether he includes in that a model for naturally occuring greenhouse gasses which geologically trail warmer temperatures as CO_2 cooks out of the oceans and methane comes out of thawing bogs and methane-hydrates.)

Add to that the evidence of increased solar output (from Mars, Triton and Pluto) and it's looks to me like a slam-dunk that the models 'proving' human induced global warming are a great example of GIGO.

[Notwithstanding]

"KT Tunstall said growing up in Scotland and seeing the effect of climate change to the coastline there spurred her into action."

She is such a keen observer - and such scientific insight for an "artist". Art, science - its all the same, right?

[RaceBannon]

bump a dilly

[Gondring]

PING for good news!!

I fail to understand why it is "good" news to find that we have no influence over a changing climate. It seems to me that "good" news would be that we've found a way to dampen the global climate changes.

[C210N]

... or its that within the next 10-20 years, the solar system crossing thru the galactic plane

as discussed on coast-to-coast (operators are standing by to take your orders!)

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

I found the interview replay, but the link is busted....for now.

[Phantom Lord]

Maybe Algore would want to debate this man.

Actually, Algore fears Dr. Singer and cancelled an apperance on I believe Larry King Alive (pretty sure it was Larry King) when he learned that Fred Singer would be the other guest. Algore returned several weeks later as the sole guest.

Singer has challenged Algore to debate repeatedly and Algore slinks away in refusal.

[cake_crumb]

I'm sure it's all over Headline News </sarcasm

[traderrob6]

Anytime rational thought and truth win over agenda driven hysteria it's good news.

[SE Mom]

Add to this- the funniest thing I've heard in a long time is that NOW "they" say that aerosol sprays are, in fact, GOOD for the ozone layer. Seems to me it was about 30 years ago we were told life as we know it would be GONE within a couple of decades if we continued using aerosol sprays.

Come to find out that was ahhh..errr..uhmmm..a "premature finding"...

(looking for link- read it couple of weeks ago)

[syriacus]

Does this mean that man-made pollution did not cause the Wisconsin Ice Sheet to recede thousands of years ago?

[olezip]

It is certainly NOT a slam dunk for Democrats and others suffering from mental disorders! But then again how do you convince the insane of anything? They have minds that prevent normal perception, especially the human caused global warming crowd on the payroll to show that global warming is caused by humans!

[reformedliberal]

Forty-three years and counting, by my personal experience. Could be longer, though.

[cake_crumb]

I fail to understand why it is "good" news to find that we have no influence over a changing climate. It seems to me that "good" news would be that we've found a way to dampen the global climate changes.

Huh? It's good news because it isn't our (capitalists') fault and implimenting the Wealth Redistribution Protocol (Kyoto) will have no climatological effect. Bush has been right all along and Algore is still a raving lunatic.

It's also good news because unless we continue to adapt to our constantly changing climate, we're extinct. Looks like we'll just have to adapt.

[syriacus]

It seems to me that "good" news would be that we've found a way to dampen the global climate changes.

If we had found a way to dampen the changes thousands of years ago, much of the US would still be under ice.

Aren't you glad we have Niagara Falls and the Great Lakes?

[cake_crumb]

"Singer has challenged Algore to debate repeatedly and Algore slinks away in refusal."

That speaks volumes.

[RushCrush]

Headline News, Year 18 Billion BC: Unnatural high temperatures, unnatural low temperatures

[syriacus]

Looks like we'll just have to adapt.

I agree. And not all the change is bad.

Amenity value of the global climate

This volume is a significant contribution to environmental economics. Its practical and policy implications offer a basis for valuing the consequences of climate change.

[biff]

We don't have a "control panel" powerful enough to dampen global climate changes!!
It is what it is and mother nature is gonna get her way.

[NavyCanDo]

If man and all traces of man were to vanish from the planet all of a sudden, the weather cycles would continue just as they are. The Earth Warms and it Cools with or without us - after all it didn't need our help to begin or end the Ice Age.

[Holicheese]

I love it. Its so easy to preach to the choir but when someone challenges him, he runs and hides behind his mother's skirt.

[CedarDave]

Mankind has never had influence over a changing climate. He learns to adapt, move or perish.

I agree with traderrob6: Anytime rational thought and truth win over agenda driven hysteria it's good news.

The serenity prayer is worth remembering here:
God, give us grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things that should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.

[lmailbvmbipfwedu]

check out "Useless Arithmetic", ISBN 0-231-13212-3

[reformedliberal]

There are too many feedback mechanisms involved to even consider "dampening", or, if we slip into a mini ice age, to increase global warming. We are adaptable. Our species has survived this cycle before. Today, we also have technology to insulate us even further from these cyclic changes.

These books are good news because they provide credible voices to counter the hysteria. After a while, it is going to be difficult for even the mind-numbed to keep shouting down dissenters as "shills". In fact, IMO, it is great news especially if the Progressives attack everyone who disagrees with them. This will just serve to prove their fascistic agendas to the people who so far have no real opinion. Eventually, the anthropogenic, anti-US, anti-production crowd will obviously be only the 19-25% of the hard left and hopefully, we will begin to see them caricatured as such on SNL, et al.

[Thermalseeker]

Maybe Algore would want to debate this man.

Algore, Heidi Cullen, et al, will never debate anyone who disagrees with them. They know deep down that the facts just do not support their claims. Hence, the need to silence their critics........

[betsyross1776]

Ban those books,burn them. How dare there be another opinion, only Al Gore and the liberals know what is best for our planet. Al will take care of women while we beat our wash on rocks getting rid of the evil washing machine. Al will make sure every cow on our planet has a plug in his where his mother never kissed him. Shame on people who say that global warming is a natural effect of the earth and the earth will heal . Ban those books before people start to think.

[Gritty]

[syriacus]

I guess the money spent on space programs hasn't been a waste at all. Especially because the resulting data can be used to halt the maniacal trend to spend millions in an attempt to cool the Earth.

[Tenacious 1]

I have been patiently waiting for two political arguments from the left.

Why don't they dispute the "science" that concludes the earth is in a constant state of global climate change (at least for the past several million years)?

The other one is off topic.

[Tenacious 1]

[Does this mean that man-made pollution did not cause the Wisconsin Ice Sheet to recede thousands of years ago?]

If it weren't for Global Warming, Canada would not exist.

Thank MAN for Global Warming?

[colonialhk]

If it cant help in 2008 they will not release it.

[ClaireSolt]

If people would just see them for the reactionaries that they are, it would be better.

[Old Professer]

Ambition should be made of sterner stuff; that sort of thing.

[SouthTexas]

ping to self

[syriacus]

If it weren't for Global Warming, Canada would not exist.

Exactly. Since Canada and the Northern US got to benefit from Global Warming, we shouldn't begrudge providing the same warmth for others.