Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"

FOX News ^ | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes

[Post-Neolithic]

"I oppose gun control. I oppose abortion. These are positions that most would consider conservative, yet these battles will not be fought in the legislature and the executive. They'll be fought in the judiciary."

CFR kind of negates your point don't you think?

President Bush also thought the same way you do and look what happens when you "Think" the judiciary will do the right thing. We need someone in office that "Thinks" like a conservative, not a Liberal. And Rudy is the latter by a wide margin.

[RockinRight]

Now a days, once a felon, always a felon, no matter what.

I do take *some* issue with that. A repeat offender? No, let them have the stigma. But a one-time offender who has truly reformed himself should be able to expunge his record after a certain amount of time.

[Niteranger68]

Regulation question: How do we keep firearms out of the hands of convicted felons (those of us that want to) without calling it regulation?

[dirtboy]

Okay, Guiliani holds some liberal beliefs

Some?

That's like saying Jeffrey Dahlmer has some odd recipes.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>What part of the people's right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED does he NOT understand?
>>>>REGULATE AWAY THE RKBA? NOT ON MY WATCH!!

Way to go Jim!

[MichiganConservative]

Like when the population of the country was 10 million?

Bigh4u2 must have forgotten that your natural rights are dependent upon the population of the state/country/kingdom/empire in which you live.

[dynachrome]

"That's like saying Jeffrey Dahlmer has some odd recipes"
Made me laugh.

[JCEccles]

But don't you see? When Rudy is president we won't need our guns. He'll protect us from domestic criminals and foreign terrorists alike. That's why we're electing him: because he's tough on crime and terrorists.

In fact, he's more than tough. Some of Giuliani's Girlz assure us he is the only man who can protect us. We will all die if he is not elected.

Every big city cop and prosecutor knows that the everyday rabble can't be trusted to handle lethal force in the form of a gun. They'll only shoot themselves or accidently kill innocent people. Gotta leave that that gun handling and shooting stuff to the professionals.

/sarc

[Dog Gone]

The Bill of Rights is a limitation on the Federal government, not a limitation on state or local government.

Through a series of Supreme Court decisions, various amendments have been "extended to the states", meaning that state and local government are also bound by those constitutional amendments. Not all of the amendments have been extended to the states, the 2nd being the most notable.

If California wanted to outlaw all gun ownership tomorrow, there's nothing preventing them from doing so. If the federal government wanted to outlaw all gun ownership in California, the second amendment prevents them from doing so.

That's the current state of the law right now, so what Rudy has said is correct.

It's apparent that Rudy doesn't object to the current state of the law, and he favors whatever "reasonable regulation" is. But the gun lobby has either been unwilling or unable to get a case before the Supreme Court where they would make a ruling that the 2nd Amendment applies to the states.

[NorCalRepub]

...and that is the reason that Hannity and his immature ways never get my vote....he kills Dems and Libs all the time about crap and then kisses butt when a Repub says the same thing.....and he did the same about abortion....my God, Hannity has no credibility with his "answer yes or no, do you still beat your wife" questions to Dems and his pandering to Repubs that don't have conservative views..what a horses.......#$%@

[Bigh4u2]

"But a one-time offender who has truly reformed himself should be able to expunge his record after a certain amount of time."

According to many law on the books, once a felon has fulfilled his obligation to society his 'citizenship' is restored.

If not, then you might just as well give him or her a life sentence.

Ex-felons can and do vote.

(of course, some current felons vote as well. mostly Democrat)

[dirtboy]

Every big city cop and prosecutor knows that the everyday rabble can't be trusted to handle lethal force in the form of a gun. They'll only shoot themselves or accidently kill innocent people.

Oh, but not only that, every gun activist wants to have guns to kill those who disagree with him (Actual Rudybooster comment on FR)

[thinkthenpost]

I'd like to know how he used the Assault weapons ban to fight the crime problem in NY. I do not see an urban, suburban, and rural America I see one America and the laws ought to apply across the board.
The jury is still out on Rudy for me, but I haven't trusted him on issues important to me or particularly cared for him as a POTUS candidate, and this interview does nothing to change my mind.

[dirtboy]

The Bill of Rights is a limitation on the Federal government, not a limitation on state or local government.

However, the 14th extended the BOR to the states.

[Jasper]

"A government that fears arms in the hands of its people should also fear the rope!" - General N.B. Forrest

[Bigh4u2]

Read post #91.

I addressed that point.

[Calpernia]

When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.

[Hildy]

Jim, please..stop being so dramatic. NOT ON YOUR WATCH? Whatchya planning on doing?

In addition, what do you plan on doing with all the laws that are already on the books restricting your right bear arms...I mean...come on.

Do you think Rudy's gonna take away all our guns, seriously? What do you think he's going to do differently than the last three Republican President's have done?

[dynachrome]

"convicted felons "
If criticizing someone like Hildabeast becomes a felony...
(See the New! and Improved! Fair and Balanced Speech act. Coming soon.)