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Quantum computer to debut next week
Techworld ^ | 08 February 2007 | Peter Judge

Posted on 02/09/2007 11:28:07 AM PST by US admirer

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To: petro45acp
Does this mean secure banking is out the window?!?

Interesting question.
Quantum computing vs. quantum cryptography.
Irresistable force meets immovable object?

41 posted on 02/09/2007 12:06:05 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: US admirer
D-Wave's prototype has only 16 qubits, but systems with hundreds of qubits would be able to process more inputs than there are atoms in the universe.

....and yet Windows would probably still crash it!

42 posted on 02/09/2007 12:06:51 PM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS; Millee; Allegra; pax_et_bonum; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; carlr; PaulaB; ...
I totally don't know what that means but I Want !!!!!
43 posted on 02/09/2007 12:07:47 PM PST by Bender2 (Gad,,, Me and Jessica together? Millee will kill me! If the love making didn't do it first...)
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To: Red Badger

that is funny. Obviously your mind is a q-mind. LOL


44 posted on 02/09/2007 12:08:05 PM PST by healy61
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To: drangundsturm
Except that the bank's computers would be hacked so the theives would have both sets of numbers.

If they get into the bank's computers they can put any numbers they want on any account. You won't be of any concern to them.

Money is mostly just information, magnetic bits on a disk somewhere. Someone can steal the bits but the bank should be able to recreate your money for you from backups.

45 posted on 02/09/2007 12:08:28 PM PST by Reeses
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To: RussP

"he basically said that the idea of quantum computing is based on a fundamental misunderstanding and cannot work"

I always wondered how you can get a result if there are the thing is always true and false at the same time.


46 posted on 02/09/2007 12:11:48 PM PST by bkepley
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To: drangundsturm
Yeah that's real practical when I do my online banking, thanks for that.

Your bank could send you a DVD or USB device with the OTP material on it. Eight gigabytes out to be enough key material to get you through all the banking you need done. Or smaller pads could be distributed to you by the bank over the internet protected by a symmetric cipher (which remains resistant to QC attacks).

47 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:07 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Or maybe it wont at the same time.

We can control it by looking at it, or looking away.

48 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:30 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
Actually, Folding@Home is a marvelous problem for quantum computing. Dunno how big a machine you'd need, or when it would be available. You literally could put in the parameters for folding, tell it what kind of answer you're looking for, and it would promptly give you a solution - rather than trying to commandeer thousands of unused computers for years on end.
49 posted on 02/09/2007 12:13:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Reeses
As long as the pad is truly random, is never reused, and only the recipient has a copy, then the encryption can never ever be cracked using any method.

That is true, but the problem is getting the recipient the one-time pad with high probability that noone else gets it.

50 posted on 02/09/2007 12:14:25 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ProudFossil
Now we are back into the world of couriers, stealing the pad(s), moles, spies, etc.

A.K.A. "rubber hose cryptography".

51 posted on 02/09/2007 12:14:42 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Reeses; drangundsturm

There are actually encryptions schemes that are not crackable no matter how much computing power you have. Plus even for many of the ones that are crackable it takes vastly more computing power to crack it than it does to use it practically.


52 posted on 02/09/2007 12:15:10 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Bommer

Windows would crash in every way possible simultaniously.


53 posted on 02/09/2007 12:15:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Bender2

Thanks ;( I was still mellowing to the pic upstream there then ran across yours. *puke*


54 posted on 02/09/2007 12:15:50 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Democrat Party: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: bkepley

"I always wondered how you can get a result if there are the thing is always true and false at the same time."

John Kerry may be able to answer that.


55 posted on 02/09/2007 12:16:13 PM PST by RussP
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To: US admirer

But could it calculate how to fold a shirt in two seconds?

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=39ebc2419a791ea5ea16a753e4abc96d.686246


56 posted on 02/09/2007 12:19:37 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: RussP

he he good point! As it is, my brain is far to small to comprehend the quantum mechanic stuff, everything I know, I learnt from Michael Crichton's 'Transit'; something about the electron operating in 32 dimensions at the same time, instead of 'on' and 'off', thus making the computer 32*32*32*32*32 etc faster or something...scary stuff...


57 posted on 02/09/2007 12:20:06 PM PST by Kurt_Hectic (Trust only what you see, not what you hear)
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To: US admirer
promised to demonstrate a quantum computer next Tuesday, that can carry out 64,000 calculations simultaneously (in parallel "universes")

Somebody has borrowed some ideas from Santa Claus. How else could Santa deliver so many presents to so many kids all over the world in one single night? Parallel universes.
58 posted on 02/09/2007 12:22:42 PM PST by adorno
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To: ProudFossil
cracking the transmission of the pad would be all but impossible. To crack something you have to KNOW when you randomly hit the right encryption. If all that you are decrypting is random numbers then that is all you would ever see. There would be no way to know which one was the right set of random numbers because ever solution to the attempts at decryption would give back random numbers. That is the real challenge of decrypting computer data. Unless you already know what you are looking for and how to interpret it all you ever have is random bits, even if you stumble on the right decryption. There is much more to it than just computing horsepower.
59 posted on 02/09/2007 12:23:04 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: bkepley

Quantum mechanics is a very different way of thinking about how stuff works.

Rather than a bit being 100% 'true' or 100% 'false', the bit has an X% chance of being 'true' and (1-X)% chance of being 'false'. Bizzare, but that's what real physics does on a really small scale.

Start with that strange way of thinking about things, and compound multiple bits - just as modern computers start with a 'true/false' bit, and compound things from there.


60 posted on 02/09/2007 12:28:11 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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