"metmom, you make very good points ... but
we have much money to make via our stock in Merck."
Posted on 02/09/2007 11:44:19 AM PST by Froufrou
Children of God for Life is urging West Virginia lawmakers to scrap HB 2835 mandating Merck's new Gardasil HPV (human papilloma virus) vaccine.
Following last week' hotly debated Executive Order by Governor Perry to mandate Gardasil in Texas, West Virginia is the latest of at least two dozen states proposing to add the controversial vaccine as a requirement for school attendance. However, unlike Texas and 48 other states including DC, which have laws allowing parents to opt-out, WVA and Mississippi are the only two States that do not provide religious or philosophical exemptions for vaccines.
"It is utterly disgraceful that WVA would force this vaccine on families, especially when their State law provides no relief to those who object to other vaccines," stated Children of God for Life Executive Director, Debi Vinnedge. "Even if they include an opt-out for Gardasil, such a move would be unconstitutional for parents who have religious objections to other vaccines, such as those using aborted fetal cell lines."
While Gardasil does not utilize aborted fetal cell lines – a primary focus of Children of God for Life, the group noted it raises other moral concerns. And they are not alone. Since Perry's actions last week, numerous family and medical groups agree that this is a family decision for the parents – not the State.
In a statement released Jan 22, the American College of Pediatrics noted that mandating Gardasil for school attendance "is a serious, precedent-setting action" replacing parental medical decision making with government regulations.
Likewise, Focus on the Family warned last year, that state officials, not parents, would become the primary sexual-health decision makers for America's children.
Vinnedge noted, "Mandating Gardasil is like the State mandating condoms for children. And neither one is effective at preventing cervical cancer. The HPV virus's incubation period is 20 years, yet this vaccine was tested for only 4 years. No one knows whether this will prevent cervical cancer at all."
Last year the Associated Press reported the FDA warning that, "any advantage the vaccine provides in protecting against the four virus types could be offset by infection by any of the multiple [over 100] other types of HPV that the vaccine does not cover." The FDA further noted that "the vaccine may lead to an increased number of cases of a cancer precursor among patients already infected by any of the four virus types at the time they receive the vaccine, and whose immune systems have not cleared the virus from their bodies."
"West Virginia is already a quagmire of contention in their antiquated State regulations on vaccines," noted Vinnedge. "If they intend to mandate Gardasil, they must provide an opt-out clause and add religious exemptions for other vaccines as well. Anything less would be a gross infringement on parental rights."
Your lack of medical knowledge, Newbie status, and utter lack of understanding of informed consent, etc.
suggest you work for Merck or Perry in Texas or have other
connection to this. Which is it?
Birth control like condoms can protect against STDs, though. The government can't force that on people. If they can't force that on people, they shouldn't force vaccines, which are more dangerous, on people. It's not just against the wishes of the parents here. It's against the wishes of the girls themselves. It's like I said...if I had been made to take it or drop out of school, I would have dropped out of school. I don't want to be a lab rat.
Perry did basically say they would all have sex. People corrected the w word with the sl word, but I actually agree with them. Assuming that girls need this mandated to them and can't be given the option is assuming that all these girls are going to put themselves at risk. I found it offensive, but that's personal, I daresay he meant it differently.
Parents doing this for pure religious reasons don't want their daughters to have it as punishment for sex, but because they're sure they've raised daughters who won't have sex and will be put at risks from side effects for something that they don't need to be protected from in the first place.
If there were enough people telling girls the true protection they get, there wouldn't be so many misconceptions among girls. It is dangerous misrepresentation, and since it exists, it obviously is a problem.
According to medical websites, the overall incidence of cancer of the
penis in the U.S. is about 1/100,000 men per year
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=308647
Even if it saves one life.......
They're so young because a vaccine is effective at that age? Right, newb.
Besides, the vaccine hasn't been tested long enough to know. It's all speculation and extrapolation. That's not enough to go on.
Oh, I see. You'd rather have them victimized by corrupt politicians and greedy drug manufacturers.
"metmom, you make very good points ... but
we have much money to make via our stock in Merck."
But giving HPV-vaccines (after adequate testing) is right, since boys don't get it by having sex.
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What? HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. How do you think boys do get it?
Yes, please do think about it in economic terms because that's what this is about-money.
Vaccinating only half the population will not result in the eradication of the disease thus requiring an endless need for the vaccine. How convenient. Develop a vaccine, have it mandated, innoculate only half the population and viola, financially secure for ages. Can you say $$$$$$ ?
"No one is saying that they (boys) shouldn't have protection. They can choose to pay for their inoculation themselves, but I don't think that the risk is high enough to justify government intervention."
Who do you think is paying for all the girls to have the vaccine? - Their parents. So you are saying only parents of girls should be mandated to pay for the inoculation, while parents of boys should not, even though there is a risk of cancer in both sexes. Man your arguments are totally illogical.
Not for religious freedom either, I see. So what makes you so right that you can dictate to others how to live?
1% of 60%?
Where did you get your numbers from, first of all.
Why didn't all of those women get pap smears, second of all.
Does that mean only 768,000 women are diagnosed with HPV each year?
That one percantage refers to women whose HPV wasn't caught, so really, less than 1% of the 75% that have it go on to have cancer. It's 1% of women with undiagnosed HPV. Though 75% of women have HPV, let's say for the purposes of my bad math mindedness, there are 100 women. 75 have HVP. Of that 75, it's only caught in 20 people, leaving 55 women. 1 percent of 55 is .55 That means 1 in 200 women, not 1 in 60 women, and that's only if it's caught in less than a third of women. If every woman has regular pap smears, do you know how many women will get cervical cancer from HPV?
According to everything Merck has said, NONE.
So I ask, why is a vaccine needed to do something that a simple regular checkup can do? It costs less than a vaccine, too, and should be done anyway for other health concerns.
Penile cancer survival rate is 50%. So doesn't it make sense to protect boys, or are they allowed to risk their own health when girls aren't?
You don't even know what you asked.
"Why else would "Children of God for Life" be opposing life-saving vaccines?"
It hasn't even been tested at all on 9-11 year olds. It's not safe enough to make mandatory. The first test on 9-11 year olds would be the government mandated vaccinations. I guess it's hard to find parents willing to give their young children over to be lab rats.
I guess it's hard to find parents willing to give their young children over to be lab rats.
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EXACTLY
Men can get anal cancer that's supposed to be associated with HPV. I'll bet that marketing would go real far.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1779740/posts?page=82#82
Awwww, they're probably just a bunch of knuckle dragging Neanderthals who would have us still living in the Dark Ages, too.
Kind of reminds me of the people I've actually met who are thrilled that gas prices are up because they own stock in the companies and are making a killing.
So how do they get it?
Born with it?
Osmosis?
Like the Army. "We need volunteers. You, you, you, and you."
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