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Giuliani's Social Views Not Well Known
The Gallup Poll ^ | February 7, 2007

Posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by don-o

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Just as I suspected.
1 posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:29 PM PST by don-o
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To: don-o
Giuliani and his IMMORAL positions on issues is precisely what we do NOT need for keep fueling our moral free fall.
Who wants to live in a wealthy Sodom & Gomorrah like society?

I don't. More than tax cuts are needed - restore morality! Giuliani will NEVER get my political vote.
2 posted on 02/11/2007 2:55:38 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: don-o

However, when Republicans are told in the context of the survey that Giuliani supports same-sex civil unions and holds a pro-choice position on abortion, the net effect on their expressed chances of backing him is negative. Knowing his social views, more than 4 in 10 Republicans indicate a reduced willingness to support Giuliani. Twenty-five percent say they would be less willing to vote for him, and 18% say they would rule out voting for him entirely.


3 posted on 02/11/2007 2:56:10 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: nmh



We need a Romney/Rudy dueling thread-a-thon....

That poll shows why no one should be getting to excited just yet, there is a year until the Hawkeye Cauci, all of leading candidates have warts, and these will come out in the time between now and then.


4 posted on 02/11/2007 2:59:11 PM PST by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: don-o; narses
Wow!

43% Of Republicans, when informed of his views, are unlikely to support him or just rule out his candidacy entirely.

And about as many Republicans think he's Pro-life as do Pro-Choice.

It is just as I suspected. Once they learn the truth about Margaret Sanger's Republican, they run away.
5 posted on 02/11/2007 2:59:27 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: nmh
I don't suspect that we'll turn into S&G in four years. I do believe that we can be overrun and bombed out of existence in that timeframe. Our security is the top issue right now. He may not be on the right side on all the issues, but I don't believe that he's going to go out of his way to turn back the clock on the conservative movement.

When the time comes, I hope the candidate is in better agreement than any of these guys, but when it comes down to it, our security and our survival must be my deciding considerations.

6 posted on 02/11/2007 2:59:34 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (For the children and the flowers are my sisters and my brothers . . .)
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To: Tanniker Smith

My deciding consideration will be protecting the unborn and securing the borders. I won't sell out the unborn children of America by voting for Rudy in the primary or the general election.


7 posted on 02/11/2007 3:05:31 PM PST by nj26 (Secure the Borders and Protect the Unborn! Duncan Hunter '08! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: don-o

Not so fast.

Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.

In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/



8 posted on 02/11/2007 3:05:53 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Antoninus

ping


9 posted on 02/11/2007 3:05:54 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: don-o
I think his views puts the moral choice in the hands of the individual.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

While I personally would never have an abortion for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else. It is God's job to judge them and if in the end, they judge themselves hsrshly for doing so, so be it. Those that fail to self-judge and repeat the same act will not win God's favor.

With the gay agenda, I tend to see the whole person and if I get to know someone and they choose an alternative lifestyle, it is still not my place to judge. If the individual has a clear and compassionalte heart and treats others as Jesus would, then they are living a more righteous life than those that choose to do Jesus' job here on earth.

While it may be "wrong" in the eyes of God to have an abortion or be gay, it is also wrong to do God's job and to judge, condemn and inflict personal values on another.

There will be no doubt that someone will be tempted to flame me and that, too, is not very Christian.

WWJP

10 posted on 02/11/2007 3:06:11 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: don-o

..right now, it is mainly name recognition--give it a few months, then we'll see...


11 posted on 02/11/2007 3:06:20 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Peach

source? Yer link goes to a FR page.


12 posted on 02/11/2007 3:08:43 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: nj26

Rudy isn't in the position to get pregnant. I think he is wanting women to use their conscience and not impose a given social value. In the end, there would be butcher shops that women that really want to kill an embryo or fetus will find.


13 posted on 02/11/2007 3:09:22 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: don-o

Rudy gets my vote, he was for Alito and Roberts and also likes Scalia...


14 posted on 02/11/2007 3:09:29 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: don-o
giuliani is extraordinarily well-liked and respected by the American public.

Don't include me.

I think he's liberal RINO scum.

15 posted on 02/11/2007 3:11:18 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: don-o

Oh, no! I'll have to look to find it again. I've been posting it on and off for 1-2 weeks now, so it's a relatively old FR thread which linked directly to the poll.


16 posted on 02/11/2007 3:11:52 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Kate of Spice Island

You tore Genesis out of your Bible?

Why not just chuck the rest of it?


17 posted on 02/11/2007 3:12:39 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: nj26

18 posted on 02/11/2007 3:13:54 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kate of Spice Island
While I personally would never have an abortion for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else. It is God's job to judge them and if in the end, they judge themselves hsrshly for doing so, so be it.

Suppose we substitute another situation...does this statement sound legitimate to you?

While I personally would never have an abortion murder for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else. It is God's job to judge them and if in the end, they judge themselves hsrshly for doing so, so be it.

19 posted on 02/11/2007 3:14:23 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: DocH
Well, I would prefer to discuss based on issues; not name calling. But, that's just me.

I recognize that my position (no vote for a abortion enabler, ever) is strongly challenged. That's fine.

Some folks say it will be a wash - that Rudy would pick up as many votes as he loses. But, what does that do to the rest of the party candidates and office holders who are left holding the bag?

20 posted on 02/11/2007 3:17:23 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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