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Giuliani's Social Views Not Well Known
The Gallup Poll ^ | February 7, 2007

Posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by don-o

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To: don-o

me too, the problem: by the time the "electorate" (Republican base)) find out, the elitist will already have 'annointed him' and he will have sucked money from true conservatives that may wish to enter the race..


61 posted on 02/11/2007 4:21:48 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: don-o

I'm not quibbling. Maybe you are, but I'm not.

I'm posting a link that directly contradicts the article titled "Giuliani's social views not well know".

I thought that was what freepers did? Research and letting others know when the MSM is not telling the entire truth.


62 posted on 02/11/2007 4:24:01 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: don-o
The subject is that as Rudy's positions become known, he loses support. That per the Gallup poll and also from a post from a Rudy supporter. Everyone I read who looks at Duncan Hunter's positions, pretty much says, "That's what we want."

I find it interesting that so many people didn't know where McCain stood either, that after mounting a serious campaign in 2000. This poll doesn't really mean anything, it's a snapshot of who they would support for the nomination, not who they would support in a general election. And it does not fully inform the voters of Rudy's position on judges that may or many not cause reconsideration, particularly when weighing the complete agenda of the candidates.

63 posted on 02/11/2007 4:24:41 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Tanniker Smith

Rudy, I respect him too as "America's Mayor", but he isn't the "only one" who could 1)Defeat Hillary et all, 2) Defend America effectively through force of strength, 3) Win the presidency..


64 posted on 02/11/2007 4:24:43 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: JSDude1
I dunno. I just heard a replay of Fox News Sunday on the XM radio. At the Roundtable, this matter of Rudy's, uh, unorthodox positions got mentioned.

It's an uphill fight, I know that.

65 posted on 02/11/2007 4:25:56 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: don-o

I'll call RINO-rudy whatever I think he DESERVES to be called, and bring up his liberal positions and policies as mayor to illustrate that he has EARNED our CONSERVATIVE wrath and disdain through nobody's fault but his own.


66 posted on 02/11/2007 4:29:09 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Peach

You posted in #12 that a poll said that 16% of Republicans would not vote for Giuliani, being informed of his views. Gallup puts that number at 18%. My point is the Republican Party loses a big chunk of votes.


67 posted on 02/11/2007 4:32:06 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: don-o

I dont' believe he approves either. So why are we debating this?


68 posted on 02/11/2007 4:33:48 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Our security is the top issue right now.

Name a time when national security is NOT the top issue.

69 posted on 02/11/2007 4:34:26 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Because you hijacked the thread?


70 posted on 02/11/2007 4:35:02 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: dmw

Frankly, there is a difference between public preaching that is coherent and soneone that is screaming to where one thinks that there is danger from the mere sound of the screaming. Have you ever been frightened by the yelling and screaming and then later seeing that it was someone with a bible?


71 posted on 02/11/2007 4:35:59 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: Peach
You posted in #12

Sorry - should be #33

72 posted on 02/11/2007 4:36:32 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: don-o
Well...

I guess we will have to see where everyone stands on the various issues. These aren't the only issues.

73 posted on 02/11/2007 4:37:19 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: spunkets
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." - Rudy Giuliani

Holy crap. That Orwellian quote should be posted in *every* FR thread on Giuliani.

74 posted on 02/11/2007 4:37:28 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Kate of Spice Island
While I personally would never have an abortion for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else.

The most infantile pro-abortion argument in history, and it seems to never get old.

75 posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:40 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Kate of Spice Island
Have you ever been frightened by the yelling and screaming and then later seeing that it was someone with a bible?

Peel away enough layers, and you virtually always find that someone with "pro-choice" or other liberal views has a controversy with God and/or His people.

76 posted on 02/11/2007 4:40:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: Sloth

That's right! It's on par with the 'toon's words, "freedom is the ability to pick your rulers", and "people have too much freedom."


77 posted on 02/11/2007 4:40:20 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: EternalVigilance
Frankly, I don't see much protection of the weak and defenseless that are already walking and breathing and here to be mocked. Would you like me to round up the thread where some of the self-righteous here were busy bashing the "crazy" population that has an online message board for dating pruposes.

In fact, it was something to mock and crack jokes over.

My point is that there are so many posters here with such hypocritical values that they behave as badly as their poplitical opponents/adversaries and are too myopic to see it.

78 posted on 02/11/2007 4:41:00 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Oh. So, since you see some sort of problem with your fellow human beings, it's okay to kill babies?

Sorry, that doesn't compute.


79 posted on 02/11/2007 4:43:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance
???

I have no idea what this particular man's political affiliation was, but he was ranting and raving in a manner that caused a high level of distress in me. Others elsewhere haven't come across like someone just cut their big toe off. Frankly, that is the way the man was screaming. When I say screaming, I mean screaming. Like he was stabbed, shot or had a finger or toe removed.

That is not inspiring and makes people turn and run or grab the cell phone to call 911. There was no violence so I didn't bother to dial 911, but it sure sounded like it.

If you want to skew the meaning of my statement to make yourself feel better, knock yourself out.

80 posted on 02/11/2007 4:44:31 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (WWJP - What Would Jesus Post???)
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