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Research: God did speak world into existence
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 11, 2007 9:35 p.m. Eastern

Posted on 02/11/2007 9:14:11 PM PST by Tim Long

Research: God did speak world into existence Student's scientific documentation offers evidence of biblical account

A science student in Kentucky says when the Bible records God spoke, and things were created, that's just what happened, and he can support that with scientific experiments.

"If God spoke everything into existence as the Genesis record proposes, then we should be able to scientifically prove that the construction of everything in the universe begins with a) the Holy Spirit (magnetic field); b) Light (an electric field); and c) that Light can be created by a sonic influence or sound," Samuel J. Hunt writes on his website.

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"There are several documented and currently taught laboratory experiments that accurately portray the events in Genesis in sequential order, the most important being that of sonoluminescence," he wrote.

That, he described to WND, is the circumstance in which sending a sonic signal into bubbles in a fluid causes the bubbles to collapse and they release photons, or create light.

That aligns with one of the earlier descriptions of the creation by God, when, in Genesis 1:1-3, the Holy Spirit moved upon the face of the deep, which generally is considered water, and said "Let there be light," he explained.

God was sending a sonic influence into the waters, and basically creating light, Hunt said. He's documented his theory, and the experiments he believes back it up, in his "Episteme Scientia, the Law of All That Is."

Researchers at institutions no less than UCLA and the University of Chicago have verified the production of light from bubbles when sound is passed through a liquid, called sonoluminescence.

Hunt said he was spurred on in his work because the advanced physics and other courses he was taking were advancing propositions that sometimes didn't match up.

"The further I went, the more my questions seemed to be being answered in the Genesis record," he told WND.

His abstract states, "An examination of the sequential mathematical and experimental dual proof of the Genesis record of origins underlying the institution of all that is in the universe – from waves to matter to the mind."

Hunt said science has been proving the Genesis account in classrooms for centuries, "in spite of the fervency to promote evolution and big bang theories."

A student at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Hunt said his questions started very simply.

"I asked my professors in physics and chemistry, 'What if I could scientifically prove that all matter was spoken into existence and that all matter could be manipulated by sound just as Genesis says? Wouldn't that mean God exists and created the universe?" he asked.

"Nobody's every done that before," was the response.

His 84-page treatise, now published, addresses that, he said.

Hunt said he believes every event in Genesis can be observed to be happening daily.

"Either you experience a universe of chaos or a universe of order and processes that produce immediate and calculable results," he wrote. "The results of my research support and prove that everything that exists was spoken into existence from waves to matter to mind."

"My professors think my application of accepted laws and theories may bend the rules a bit, but the ideas are thought-provoking and progressive," he said.

The website describes the integration of several mathematical systems including "Phi, Pi, L-systems, Penrose tiling, and an all-encompassing Koch curve."

The outline, available at scienceprovescreation.com, already has sold more than 1,700 copies.

Hunt said his goal was to be able to provide experiments that would explain the Genesis creation story – in the order the Bible records events happened.

"Some of my teachers are like, 'That's complete hogwash,'" he said, "while others say, 'That's pretty interesting.'"

His goal is to bring a unity to the Christian community, "just like the founders of our nation expected and wanted from the Constitution."

The documentation of his processes, Hunt believes, could end debate.

"People want to know the truth, to have something to stand on that's not trickery and deceit," he said. "This gives people something real to touch, hang on to."


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To: LtKerst
Yes I dont believe you.

But you believe an undergrad at Western Kentucky University out to make a buck? Like I said, a fool and his money...

41 posted on 02/11/2007 10:20:41 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: LtKerst
If the Supernatural, is the Maker of the Natural, there will be a "Signature"

What is it, where is it, and how do we measure or quantify it?

That's the problem that has bedeviled creationists for centuries. Maybe you have the answer...

42 posted on 02/11/2007 10:21:57 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: philetus

Where did the water come from?
why is this a question as if it shows God cant exist?

Evolutionists cant explain it, yet say that Evolution is a forgone conclusion, and nothing else can be taught in schools...?

If the Evolutionists cant explain where the water came from ...why can they teach Evolution as Fact? yet God is
disproved by it???

God's Voice would be Super-Sonic!!!!! across Space all at once creating Light from the Waters in the Sky!!!!
WOW!!!! what a concept!!! energy and matter all in an instant!!!!
If His Voice can "Speak" into existance Light and Matter ( which is what Water is...)
then you have your "Begining"

the problem is that You then have to Face your Sin and Eternity... Now you really have a Problem.

Now you have to get an "evolution" explanation for Hell.

So you can go on running from Judgement.

But there is good news for the Repentant Man.

Jesus is the Savior of the World.


43 posted on 02/11/2007 10:23:12 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: SmartAZ
So the scientist says, "God, we don't need you any more. We can make a man from dirt now, just like you did." God says, "Go for it. That's worth seeing." The scientist stoops and grabs a handful of dirt. "Hold on!" roars God. That's mine! Get your own dirt!"

I'm not sure I understand the point of that anecdote. A scientist who thought he could create a human being out of dirt would be a creationist, wouldn't he?

44 posted on 02/11/2007 10:23:12 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Kirkwood
So you think God is a magnet?

Behold the L-rd:


45 posted on 02/11/2007 10:25:19 PM PST by Lazamataz (Global warming turns people gay.)
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To: Alter Kaker
I'm a person of faith and this is one of the stupidest statement I have ever read. WND has jumped the shark.

I agree. The Bible proves science and not the other way around. If one tries to use science to try and prove the Bible they will end up with unknowns and be relegated to establishing theories just like evolutionists do.

46 posted on 02/11/2007 10:30:07 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: garbanzo; Coyoteman; RadioAstronomer
The writer seems to believe that millions of people have been using God to post notes on their refrigerators and generate electric power.

Coyoteman, Radio, I believe the Kentucky dude's writings have already been properly eviscerated over on DC, but the above comment ought to bring a chuckle.

For the record, I prefer this:

Or this:

Cheers!

47 posted on 02/11/2007 10:39:31 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Constantine XIII

sadly, I'm pretty sure he/she's not a troll.


48 posted on 02/11/2007 10:43:53 PM PST by kms61
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To: Kirkwood
And I'm pretty sure that the Holy Spirit isn't a magnetic field.
I concur.
49 posted on 02/11/2007 10:57:54 PM PST by Bittersweetmd (God is Great and greatly to be praised.)
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To: Tim Long

I came to this thread with hope, read about five lines, and am sitting here shaking my head at the guy's illiteracy and lunacy.

How WND has fallen.


50 posted on 02/11/2007 11:05:49 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: Kirkwood
"You think God is a magnet?"

Oh no... I have about twenty of them stuck to my refrigerator! So many! ...Could the Hindus be right?
51 posted on 02/11/2007 11:09:52 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: Constantine XIII

It is so far off the mark, it isn't even wrong! But don't squelch the poor soul so vested in this oddity unless it conflicts with your life experience of faith in Christ.


52 posted on 02/11/2007 11:14:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Kirkwood
"You think God is a magnet?"

Great merchandising hook. Nothing like a bipolar deity to make a kid a buck.
54 posted on 02/11/2007 11:16:59 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
"You think God is a magnet?" Oh no... I have about twenty of them stuck to my refrigerator! So many! ...Could the Hindus be right?

You can buy plenty of Hindu God refrigerator magnets. Full of extra holy spirit... Be careful, Refrigerator Ganesha gets angry if you put beef from sacred cows inside.

55 posted on 02/11/2007 11:20:42 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Refrigerator Ganesha gets angry if you put beef from sacred cows inside.

But beef from sacred cows makes the best hamburger ...

56 posted on 02/11/2007 11:23:29 PM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: Tim Long

This is a joke. Right?


57 posted on 02/11/2007 11:27:50 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kirkwood
I'm pretty sure that the Holy Spirit isn't a magnetic field

The Catholics told me that my body was a temple for the Holy Spirit. He may keep a temple here within me but I do not think He has ever visted. I have never attracked metal to me like most magnetic fields would.

58 posted on 02/11/2007 11:31:15 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: fish hawk
I quit arguing on these types of threads.

I am sure that your intellect will be sorely missed in these types of threads.

59 posted on 02/11/2007 11:33:21 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: balch3; Alter Kaker; Junior_G
there's nothing terribly scientific about what he did. he assumed the holy spirit to be a magnetic field and God to be electric and when he combined them, wow. Why did he use those postulates in the first place?

The scientific method, when applied properly, cannot prove anything to be true. Instead, it can show a theory to be more accurate than another one/ disprove a theory. But it cannot prove anyhting to be absolutely true. Anyone who says they can use science to prove that evolution is 100% fact is sorely mistaken, just as anyone who says they can use science to to prove traditional Biblical creation is 100% fact is also equally mistaken. A widespread problem today is that people think science=truth. It doesn't. Science is a method of seeking the truth, and it does not gurantee accurate results. The observation that the horizon looks flat could be used to scientifically 'prove' that the Earth is flat. We now have a better theory that says it isn't. In short, scientific conclusions are falsifiable, meaning that they can be only be proven wrong, or assumed correct for lack of a better theory. They can never be proven correct.

As I see it, science can can answer the questions "How?" "What?" "Who?" "When?" "Where?" about something, but whenver it answers "Why?" it is actually providing a "How?" type answer. The "Why?" of any topic can be questioned with another "Why?" question until we reach the ultimate "Why?"s-- why does the univers even exist, etc. These questions can be never be answered that provide definitive evidence- answers in the "Why?" arena are supported solely by faith. That is why there are so many religions-- none can actually prove themselves correct, nor can they disprove the others. All one can do is have faith that they are correct. Everyone is together in their plight to understand the "Why"s of their own existence and the existence of the world. It's one Holy Book versus another; one creation legend versus another.

As I see it, the search for truth is ongoing, with theology attempting to answer "Why?" and science attempting to answer the specifics of time, place, and mechanism. In that regard I see evolution as a theory not contradictory to the existence of God at all, but merely one explaining how he brought life into its current state of existence. I have faith- I am Christian. But I hold no illusions that I can validate beliefs with any sort of concrete evidence- that's why I call my beliefs my faith.


Or at least the above is how this 19 year old views the world.
60 posted on 02/11/2007 11:38:17 PM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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