Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test

The Baltimore Sun ^ | 2-12-2007 | Paul West

[flashbunny]

He's also strongly pro illegal immigrant, based on his fighting for NY as a 'sanctuary city'

[Peach]

Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.

In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.

Human Events, Is Giuliani the Republican Peyton Manning,
2/6/07
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780060/posts

[My2Cents]

Fine, you've said. We hear it. Don't bother us with it again.

[TitansAFC]

Actually, it was like 3/4 unaware of ANY of his stances on the issues.

He'll tank. Give it time, and fight the good fight.

[Spiff]

He probably was referring to LEGAL immigrants.

Note his comment about his opposition to the anti-ILLEGAL immigrant legislation that was passed by a REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. He called it "anti-immigration" when it was anti-ILLEGAL immigration.

[SeeSalt]

"Views of Giuliani put GOP to the test"


Giuliani is an arrogant man. He may think that the Republicans have to adjust their views to his. If they want him as candidate for Presidency.
O, Newt where art you!

[NapkinUser]

When the widespread negative ads get going informing people of Giuliani's quotes and positions on illegal immigration, guns, gay special rights and abortion among other things it will change. Those polls only get to a small group of people.

16% changing their opions ain't exactly something to sneeze at too.

[UncleSamUSA]

Yes, thank you for making that CRITICAL distinction.

Giuliani is himself the son of immigrants to the US. He has a bond with LEGAL, hardworking immigrants to this nation and makes no bones about it. Nor should he.

What we all want to stop is ILLEGAL immigration, not the inflow of legal, hardworking immigrants seeking freedom and opportunity.

[Beagle8U]

"only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views."

And since the Republican candidate always wins in the general election by a margin much greater than 16% it doesn't matter.

[Peach]

I guess that was sarcasm, because of course the Republican candidate doesn't always win by 16%. If only...

But given that Reagan Democrats and moderates voted Republican, I think it's entirely likely this time around again.

Those Democrats liked Reagan's fiscal conservatism. When it comes to fiscal conservatism, Rudy gets glowing marks from quite a few conservative reporters and news organizations.

Reagan Democrats explained:

http://www.answers.com/topic/reagan-democrat

[Beagle8U]

Yes, it obviously was sarc. but not directed at you personally. I understand that many like him and will overlook his positions on the "hot button" issues, but a huge % of the base wont.

I get one vote the same as you do but that wont change the reaction from the issues voters.

[Candor7]

Rudy's make up is rubbing off. He is a panderer who will change his pronouncements to suit the electorate in whatever area he happens to be campaigning. Its known as the chameleon effect.

We do not need a chameleon for president, A rudy cameleon that sits in the presidential chair in the oval office flicking out its tongue to catch pollster flies in order to decide what his positions are this week or the next.

Rudy can take a long walk off a short pier.

[Candor7]

I would vote for Hillary rather than Giuliani.Why?

To further polarize the nation and to make the Republican party come home to its conservative base in 2012.

[Beagle8U]

"I would vote for Hillary rather than Giuliani.Why?"

I have a better idea if it were to ever come to that choice.

Write in a vote for Jim Robinson. That way they will know exactly why we reject those feeble choices!

[DocH]

I am a former Marine with 13 years active-duty service in a combat MOS.

I did not mean to imply that ALL women who might say this were (whatever humorous name Rush came up with), ONLY the women who used that "FEELING" as their one and only reason for voting, while not also THINKING about the issues.

Mere emotion, when not accompanied by THOUGHT and LOGIC, is no way to make an important decision which effects us all.

As a military mom, sister, etc., I'm SURE you don't fit this bill, so I apologize if you thought I meant this for you.

[Kevmo]

Rudy's make up is rubbing off. ...We do not need a chameleon for president...
***Good stuff. He's a classic politician who sits on a fence & keeps both ears to the ground.

[dirtboy]

The Giuliani spin just keeps degarding, doesn't it?

[Coldwater Creek]

I did not take offense at your comment, and you owe me no apology.

When I said that feeling safe would play into my vote, I really meant that I would like someone that I could trust as CIC.

You are right feelings come and go, and should not be used solely when making any decision.

Thanks for your service to the country.

Maria

[Plutarch]

Guiliani's pro-Amnesty stance is one of many reasons I prefer Romney amongst the viable candidates. Click on the link to see the video of Romney explaining his immigration stance.

Video: Make it LEGAL immigration

[Hambone02]

I wouldn't go that far. Either candidate would hopefully cause the Repubs to return to their conservative base. The mess that person (2012) would have on their hands would be less if Hillary wasn't in there. Personally, I will vote for Newt, if he decides to run, or Duncan in the primaries, but will support the winner of the primaries, even if it is Rudy(God forbid). Otherwise, Clinton/Obama are shoe-ins.