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Calling Giuliani on his many lies
World Net Daily ^ | 19 February 2007 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/19/2007 12:01:25 AM PST by Spiff

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Joe Farah has definitely been reading Free Republic and getting his material from us. In fact, his list of Giuliani's "Supports/Opposes" views looks very similar to mine. I mean, look at the order in which the items are presented.

His list:

Abortion: Supports

Taxpayer support of abortion: Supports

Embryonic stem cell research: Supports

Federal marriage amendment: Opposes

Same-sex domestic partnerships and civil unions: Supports

Open homosexuals in the military: Supports

Amnesty for illegal aliens: Supports

Tough penalties for employers of illegal aliens: Opposes

Sanctuary cities that ignore immigration law: Supports

My list:

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

His list is in exactly the same order as my list and he even uses a lot of the same wording. I'm glad the research I did on Giuliani's views is getting out there. Use my stuff all you want. I'm only trying to get the word out on Giuliani and the other liberals in the race.

Hey, Joe, if you're reading this. Good job. Now, do a piece on Giuliani's quotes on Partial Birth Abortion that I've posted numerous times. The "firm" support for partial birth abortion comment that he made to George Will in 2000 should do some real damage if it gets out there where it needs to get.

1 posted on 02/19/2007 12:01:28 AM PST by Spiff
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To: dirtboy; EternalVigilance; Reagan Man; TitansAFC; narses; dmw; don-o; DocH; Jim Robinson; Liz; ...

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2 posted on 02/19/2007 12:02:55 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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3 posted on 02/19/2007 12:05:07 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Spiff
I've been out of country and off FR for a couple weeks.
Are the same 12% of Freepers still supporting thier Rino?
4 posted on 02/19/2007 12:06:19 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: ASA Vet

I don't think he even qualifies as a a RINO. He's really a donk all the way.


5 posted on 02/19/2007 12:08:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (“Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God.”)
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To: ASA Vet
I've been out of country and off FR for a couple weeks. Are the same 12% of Freepers still supporting thier Rino?

Yes. It's the same bunch of creeps that supported RINO Arnold SchwartzenKennedy in the California recall election in 2003. Now they want the entire country to suffer under a liberal RINO instead of just California.

6 posted on 02/19/2007 12:08:36 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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The only guy who doesn't flip flop and seems nearly the perfect conservative is that guy Duncan Hines.
I think I'll vote for him.


7 posted on 02/19/2007 12:17:28 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Spiff
Can you provide me some documentation on the Guliani Gun Confiscations?

Thanks in advance.

L

8 posted on 02/19/2007 12:20:48 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Spiff

Joe Farah plagiarizing!

He should at least give you credit.

Maybe a cash advance.


9 posted on 02/19/2007 12:22:37 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support, promote or vote for liberals.)
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To: Spiff
I salute you my FRiend:
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10 posted on 02/19/2007 12:25:18 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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The Giuliani campaign is essentially done, then.

From WorldNetDaily

It is a Top 500 website, according to Alexa.com, the search and ratings agency affiliate of Amazon.com, and the No. 1 independent newssite. WorldNetDaily currently attracts nearly 5 million unique visitors a month and more than 40 million pageviews, according to its own internal monitoring software.


I've watched the WND Alexa.com stats, and it gets an enormous amount of traffic. It's a Catholic perspective site, BTW, although Joseph works to also attract readers from other interests.
11 posted on 02/19/2007 12:29:45 AM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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Well, between the Beast and Rudy, I will gladly and most reptitively vote for Rudy.

No one can beat the Beast other than Rudy. Sorry.

12 posted on 02/19/2007 12:33:28 AM PST by Dave W
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LOL! I wonder if the Giuliani herd will accuse Farah of posting "spam" on his site now!

And I forgive him--as long as he won't do it again--for publishing Buchanan's garbage. ...but only because he wrote the good piece above this thread. [g]


13 posted on 02/19/2007 12:35:33 AM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Lancey Howard

I believe you mean Duncan Hunter of Calif. Duncan Hines manufactures desserts.


14 posted on 02/19/2007 12:44:08 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Dave W
No one can beat the Beast other than Rudy. Sorry.

Bull.

Hillarys negatives are upwards of 40%. She is essentially unelectable.

L

15 posted on 02/19/2007 12:50:43 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Dave W

At this point in the game...if the Republican "true" candidate is McCain...then the race is finished. McCain can't beat Hillary and the vast audience knows that. If you count the electoral college race...she can carry most of the big "seven" states...with the exception of Florida and Texas. I can only see McCain carrying the red states of the south...to a fairly dismal popular vote situation.

If you use Rudy as the candidate...then the electoral college race shifts drastically. New York is Rudy's home ground. He can debate Hillary there and whoop her on any state topic. She won't be able to fight back. If you look across at the western states...Rudy can probably carry most of them. Hillary gets California and the coastal states as easy targets and that wraps up her run.

My guess is that the Republican race will be like the democratic race of 1860...where Douglas could never get the members of his own party to stand up together....so they split...and lost the race to Lincoln. A united Democratic party in 1860...could have easily won the race for Douglas.


16 posted on 02/19/2007 12:51:03 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Dave W

We had a popular Conservative as POTUSA.
Next was a one term moderate.
Next was a two term traitor, who some people think was conservative.
Next was a two term moderate that squeaked by because the democrats nominees were very bad.
Now some people want a far left winger as the Republican nominee that most real democrats can beat because they can run to the right of IT.


17 posted on 02/19/2007 12:58:06 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Dave W
Well, between the Beast and Rudy, I will gladly and most reptitively vote for Rudy. No one can beat the Beast other than Rudy. Sorry.

A shame to see an intelligent Freeper run up the white flag of surrender more than a year away from Election Day in November '08.

Why are you so eager to drink that MSM Koolaid they're shoving at us?
18 posted on 02/19/2007 1:00:02 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: Spiff

Bush.

thanks a lot for throwing the
Republican majority away


19 posted on 02/19/2007 1:04:32 AM PST by greasepaint
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Didn't Ralph Nader cause a win for the Republicans? We should support a Leftist 3rd-party candidate so that Rudy (or any Republican) can win.

Did you see the pretty-good numbers for Gingrich? (Not that his numbers will budge any—ever).

20 posted on 02/19/2007 1:27:59 AM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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