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Study moves chimp-human split to 4 million years ago
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | Fri Feb 23, 2007 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 02/24/2007 4:59:17 AM PST by Pharmboy


A male chimpanzee feeds in Kibale National Park tropical
rain forest, 354km southeast of Uganda's capital Kampala,
December 2, 2006. A new study, certain to be controversial,
maintains that chimpanzees and humans split from a common
ancestor just 4 million years ago -- a much shorter time
than current estimates of 5 million to 7 million years
ago. (James Akena/Reuters)

Chimpanzees and humans split from a common ancestor just 4 million years ago -- a much shorter time than current estimates of 5 million to 7 million years ago, according to a study published on Friday.

The researchers compared the DNA of chimpanzees, humans and our next-closest ancestor, the gorilla, as well as orangutans.

They used a well-known type of calculation that had not been previously applied to genetics to come up with their own "molecular clock" estimate of when humans became uniquely human.

"Assuming orangutan divergence 18 million years ago, speciation time of human and chimpanzee is consistently around 4 million years ago," they wrote in their study, published in the Public Library of Science journal PLoS Genetics, available online at http://genetics.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document& doi=10.1371/journal.pgen.0030007#toclink4.

"Primate evolution is a central topic in biology and much information can be obtained from DNA sequence data," Dr. Asger Hobolth of North Carolina State University said in a statement.

The theory of a molecular clock is based on the premise that all DNA mutates at a certain rate. It is not always a steady rate but it evens out over the millennia and can be used to track evolution.

Experts agree that humans split off from a common ancestor with chimpanzees several million years ago and that gorillas and orangutans split off much earlier. But it is difficult to date precisely when, although most recent studies have put the date at somewhere around 5 million to 7 million years ago.

Hobolth and colleagues from the University of Aarhus in Denmark and the University of Oxford in Britain looked at four regions of the human, chimpanzee, and gorilla genomes.

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They used a statistical technique called the hidden Markov model, developed in the 1960s and originally applied to speech recognition.

What they found may contradict some other recent research. They found evidence that it took only 400,000 years for humans to become a separate species from the common chimp-human ancestor.

Just last May, David Reich of the Broad Institute at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard Medical School's Department of Genetics found evidence that the split probably took 4 million years to occur, although his team put the final divergence at just 5.4 million years ago.

"I don't think it really contradicts our paper," Reich said in an e-mail exchange.

"We were focusing on a maximum time for the common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees, while they were focusing on a best estimate," added Reich, who reviewed Hobolth's paper before it was published.

Experts have long known that humans and chimpanzees share much DNA, and are in fact 96 percent identical on the genetic level.

And one year ago, Soojin Yi and colleagues at the Georgia Institute of Technology said they found genetic evidence that chimpanzees may be more closely related to humans than to gorillas and orangutans.

Their look at the molecular clock showed humans evolved one unique trait just a million years ago -- our longer life span and our long childhood that means humans reach sexual maturity very late in life compared to other animals.


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Hmmm...very recent.
1 posted on 02/24/2007 4:59:18 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Ping...


2 posted on 02/24/2007 4:59:47 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

...and many haven't made the split yet.


3 posted on 02/24/2007 5:02:36 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

And those ones are called libs.


4 posted on 02/24/2007 5:09:47 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Pharmboy
But it is difficult to date precisely when, although most recent studies have put the date at somewhere around 5 million to 7 million years ago.

I love that way words are tossed around in these evolution debates.

In real empirical science the words like "precise" actually have "precise" meaning instead of playing semantics

The water will precisely boil somewhere between "0" and 2,000,000 degrees

5 posted on 02/24/2007 5:10:52 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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...and many haven't made the split yet.

My first ex-mother-in-law is a prime example ;-)

6 posted on 02/24/2007 5:13:20 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Pharmboy

Hot Liberal Chick

7 posted on 02/24/2007 5:16:13 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Popman
....although most recent studies
....In real empirical science the words like "precise" actually have "precise" meaning

probably due to bad study habits
8 posted on 02/24/2007 5:16:34 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: kittymyrib
Some have split from other sources, like the Japanese Macaque, aka Snow Monkey and NBC correspondent.


9 posted on 02/24/2007 5:19:02 AM PST by edpc (Watch this space)
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To: Popman

LOL! Is she the '08 candidate for the Evo Party?


10 posted on 02/24/2007 5:21:09 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Pharmboy
...hmmmmm..right after Helen Thomas lost her virginity.



Doogle
11 posted on 02/24/2007 5:26:21 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: varon

You mean primate example?


12 posted on 02/24/2007 5:26:50 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: edpc
Some have split from other sources,


13 posted on 02/24/2007 5:29:34 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Pharmboy

14 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:34 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
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To: Pharmboy
You know, if scientists move the split up to 6011 years ago, all sorts of people are going to be in trouble.
15 posted on 02/24/2007 5:45:25 AM PST by Grut
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To: Pharmboy
Impossible. The world has only been in existence for 4600 years.
16 posted on 02/24/2007 5:47:44 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You got it - right down to the hairline. Even the evilness within comes forth!


17 posted on 02/24/2007 5:53:35 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

18 posted on 02/24/2007 5:56:19 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

LOL! Are you getting these pictures from the lib family album? Resemblances are amazing. You do good work.


19 posted on 02/24/2007 6:01:15 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Pharmboy
Is the video on Utube yet?
20 posted on 02/24/2007 6:06:13 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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