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PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL 'MAY BE THE MOST FINANCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE LAW IN 40 YEARS';
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm ^ | March 1, 2007 | Edcoil

Posted on 03/01/2007 11:06:13 AM PST by edcoil

Bill Will Add $8 Trillion to Long-Term Medicare Obligations - That Could Already Bankrupt the U.S.

The U.S. government's top accountant says the law that added a prescription drug benefit to Medicare may be the most financially irresponsible legislation passed since the 1960s.

U.S. Comptroller General David Walker says Medicare -- barring vast reform to the program and the nation's healthcare system -- is already on course to possibly bankrupt the treasury and adding the prescription bill just makes the situation worse. Walker appears in a Steve Kroft report to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, March 4 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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To: edcoil

Bush's Fault!


....really


21 posted on 03/01/2007 12:26:05 PM PST by KoRn
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To: poobear
The part about it is the boomers fault once again just ticks me off. They . . . . .

Define that "They" for me. Who are "They"?? Be VERY careful how you define it. I'm a boomer and I don't approve of this measure and didn't EVER want it!! And, all of my boomer friends, colleagues, co-workers and relatives feel the same way I do.

You probably have your generations confused since boomers are only JUST STARTING TO REACH RETIREMENT AGE!!!!! This wasn't for us, it was for your grandparents and great-grandparents!!!

22 posted on 03/01/2007 12:29:07 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: TUAN_JIM
I can't wait to see what else the boomers vote themselves once they all retire.

See my post #22.

23 posted on 03/01/2007 12:30:08 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: edcoil
As life expectancies increase and the cost of health care continues to rise at twice the rate of inflation, radical reform in health care will be necessary, Walker says. He says the federal government is also going to have to find ways to increase revenue and reduce benefits.

Ah yes, more taxes.

I would say that Rove and Bush's strategy has been and F.

24 posted on 03/01/2007 12:30:40 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: edcoil

Well "DUH!", it's not like anyone with an IQ over 50 couldn't see this coming well before it passed.

Doesn't matter though, as long as it potentially reels in votes...


25 posted on 03/01/2007 12:33:07 PM PST by Axenolith ("pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma")
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To: edcoil
Bush is going to wind up being a disastrous president. His stupid daylight savings time adjustment alone has cost our company thousands of dollars not to mention the software problems that we're still having.
26 posted on 03/01/2007 12:35:14 PM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: stevio
There was no great outcry for the Prescription drug program. President Bush was determined to implement it and transfer billions in business obligations to the taxpayer.

The Administration even lied, or made outrageous miscalculations in depicting the predicted costs of such a program. Business put it to the taxpayer and they and the President are working together, again, to lower the cost of doing business on the backs of the taxpayer with the upcoming amnesty.

Regards.

27 posted on 03/01/2007 12:52:38 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
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To: stevio

I'm in the software industry and we have not seen any problems with daylight savings. We have 1,000's of customers around the globe and these seems to be little if any affect of simply moving the day ahead.

This seems more like the Y2K doom and gloom then reality.


28 posted on 03/01/2007 12:54:59 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
The IT people worked overtime to do the change for the new daylight savings time BS. Plus there are other issues that have popped up that may or may not be related to the change.

So are you saying this was a good move by his administration to move the daylight saving dates?

29 posted on 03/01/2007 1:10:50 PM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: edcoil

Don't get too hysterical about the drug plan,,. Take a look at the numbers.

Senior citizens pay almost $93.50 a month for medicare.. lets say $1100 a year. For all practical purposes the drug plan is capped. this year at $2450.

The cap is composed of what you and they pay. Say a $20 tier 1 retail drug has a copay of $5. The full $20 is counted toward your cap. A tier 2 drug having a retail price of $35 has a copay of $29. The total of $35 is counted toward your cap.

Typically I pay about $60 a month toward my copays. Another $720 a year.

So When I didn't have medicare, doctor visits were $40, now they are $5. I go quarterly.

on balance I pay out $1100 + $720 + $20 = $1840

I receive $ 80 Dr. + $2450 drugs = $2530, or a positive balance of $690.

The cap last year, when it was $2150, was arrived at in August. The balance of the year was then at 100% my pay. The catastrophoc feature does not kick in until I pay about $4000 of my own dollars. (not a combination of copay and benefits, but my own $)

Think of it as a tax reduction to make up for taxing S.S., or for not privatizing S.S. in the first place.

All in all I don't think giving Seniors a $700 break annually is going to bankrupt the country when one considers the far larger amounts wasted on agribusiness, ethanol, illegal aliens, bloated education, Congressional salaries and retirements, and other bureaucratic waste.

Remember this is money going to the formerly most productive employees of our country.


30 posted on 03/01/2007 1:14:00 PM PST by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: rock58seg

Why is it my job to buy your aspirin?

"formerly most productive employees" This is not true however, if you were productive, how come you cannot pay your own bills?


31 posted on 03/01/2007 1:16:11 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

That was the original intent. Make the system break. Then the libs would step up and announce that they have a plan to fix it. It would be socialized medicine with high taxes. Their goal is total and complete socialization of the USA.


32 posted on 03/01/2007 1:22:01 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is demented)
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To: DustyMoment

I wasn't referring to current benefits, which boomers have paid into; I'm wondering what new benefits will be introduced once the massive boomer demographic retires. I want the government to keep its promises, I just don't want it to make any new ones.


33 posted on 03/01/2007 1:28:02 PM PST by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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34 posted on 03/01/2007 1:36:02 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: DustyMoment

"The problem is the baby boomers. The 78 million people born between 1946 and 1964 start becoming eligible for Social Security benefits next year. "They'll be eligible for Medicare just three years later and when those boomers start retiring en masse, then that will be a tsunami of spending that could swamp our ship of state if we don't get serious," says Walker."

Dude or Dudette you are preaching to the choir.

They = those reporting this crisis.

They = those who would like to say this is a crisis because the 'boomers' are retiring in masse.

They = those who would like to drag us into a category of those who caused this crisis in the first place when it was some plan of a very famous FDR elite Democrat with his "New Deal" where every worker would contribute to the great of the common good.

They = those who for decades depended on us boomers to work for those who increasingly took advantage of this government program and have been accepting payments for life. Not the ones it originally intended to help.

They DO NOT = ME.

How the hell else could I be paying into SS & Medicare for the last 35 years and NOT be a boomer. Do the math.


No worries.


35 posted on 03/01/2007 1:40:18 PM PST by poobear (Carter & Clinton - 'The Latter Day Church Of Jew Haters & Horndogs')
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To: TUAN_JIM

Believe it or not. most boomers would agree. We don't believe that we will see SS benefits at the same level as our parents and grandparents because, for us to receive them at the level, unfairly burdens later generations.

Hopefully, those of us who are the non-hippy, non-gimme part of the boomer generation won't look for the government to do anything special for us, other than honoring its obligations under the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution (protecting our national sovereignty comes to mind).


36 posted on 03/01/2007 1:41:41 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: edcoil
Thanks George. Now you know why the "right" did not turnout in the polls.

Medicare = votes

That's why no Republican will try and seriously reform it, and that's why no Republican President would ever veto anything that would seriously impact it.
37 posted on 03/01/2007 2:00:30 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: edcoil

Sour Grapes, or as they say in Southern Russia..Tough Sh*tsky you all. lol

You pay for my aspirin, because the politicians you elected say you will. If you don't like it, work a little harder to get it changed.

I think of it as a tax reduction the Democrats don't want me to have. As long as I take the money they can't use it on worse schemes.

See there, rationalization does have a wonderful calming effect.


38 posted on 03/01/2007 3:26:42 PM PST by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
That was the original intent. Make the system break. Then the libs would step up and announce that they have a plan to fix it. It would be socialized medicine with high taxes. Their goal is total and complete socialization of the USA.

Well, they are doing it with the help of quite a few Republicans....
39 posted on 03/01/2007 3:40:07 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: poobear

Thank you for clarifying that for me, poobear. It just came across as another boomer bashing comment and I'm sure that you, like me, are pretty tired of those.


40 posted on 03/01/2007 3:48:43 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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