Skip to comments.More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
Posted on 03/02/2007 5:18:13 AM PST by alienken
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Jim Brown
February 22, 2007
Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.
Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.
"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.
"We are now five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."
This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.
The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."
The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.
Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.
An inconvenient truth, indeed.
I'm sure this will lead the CBS Evening News tonight. Yeah, right.
My first thought was of that kid on The Simpsons who does the "Ha ha" laugh. My second thought was to cry and give thanks I don't live in a border state or in an area with a high population of illegals.
This needs to be spread far and wide.
People paying the high price for someone else's cheap labor.
Hello... anyone in the White House?? In Washington???
"Just killing the Americans that other American's don't want to kill."
My thoughts exactly!
yeah but look at those low lettuce prices...
And wonder about eating it...will we get E coli or worse?
But, don't ya know, they are called "fiscal conservatives" now and social issues just have to wait this election???
"The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes"
Where are they? I'm ready to donate!
"Just killing the Americans that other American's don't want to kill."
Good one, pandy! ~guffaw!~
The apologists should be along any minute.
No, when there is proof offered, they remain silent. It would require them to think for themselves, which they cannot do.
But the illegals are so cute, and they do everything for us. We should inform the illegals we want to sacrifice our nation to the illegal criminal invaders, just as our politicians have done. It will make us French (like our fearless leaders)....and we will smell like the French......kind of fishy and dead smelling.......oh happy day! Dang where's my /s tag? (jmh-no)
and quotes it as saying 42,000 in 2001 and 49,000 in 2004. That's a huge discrepancy.
I stand ready to be convinced otherwise, but I seem to reall a general floating statement about "6 alien murders per day" which would multiply to about the number claimed, but I don't see any support for it. Sources, anyone?
Someone should point you to the congressional record. I don't have a link but according to serveral members of congress the number is higher than 6.
Any Democrat on the Hill can tell you how many are dying in Iraq, but they ignore how many are dying in America of the Spanish speaking gang related murders.
Funny, lettuce isn't low-priced here in AR. Going through checkout the other day, I was watching the prices on the items on the screen and had the checker stop to put back one bosc pear ($1.16) and one onion ($.78). Not to mention our Wal-Mart sells one green peper (and not necessarily fresh) for $.78. What's up?
Going to try a small garden this year and I'll see how that works.
Not sealing the Mexico border is costlier than not sealing the Iranian border.
Thanks GWB for this Mess.
He sure has been no d@mn help to us thats for sure. I just do not understand why nobody in this govt seems to understand what most Americans want. It makes my blood boil! Build the wall and if they want to come in then let them come in the way our grandparents etc did. If I hear one more time they are doing the jobs Americans don't want I will scream. They are taking away almost all the building jobs where I live. Young adults can't get summer jobs anymore because the illegals are taking them away. And not just the Mexicans either. What a mess all of this is! We are being sold down the river by our elected govt! ~P~
Our border is wide open with drugs coming across every day but.............I went to the pharmacy last night to buy some cold medicine and had to ask for it since the good stuff is behind the pharmacy counter. The gal asked for my drivers license and input all info off of it into the computer. Sheesh was I mad!
I am ready to fire ALL politicians.
Also in the DC area there have been many killings and rapes by illegal aliens and gangs such as MS13 and various Asian gangs have established themselves.
I came up with THIS source that seems to track the allegation at the top of this thread:
If you read it, it is based entirely on assuming that each illegal alien here has a propensity to murder equal to the averge murder rate in his/her home country. That's it. Nothing more or less. Which is a pretty preposterous way to try to get a figure. I have no doubt that illegals commit murders. A lot of murders. But 100 is a lot, and so is 4,000. If you want to know where the truth lies in between, this "study" won't do it.
I did find THIS chart (Table 12)
from a DOJ report (linked from Vdare.com, which is definitely not pro-immigrant), showng that about 18% of the people in jail for murder nationwide are Hispanic. That seems to be a hard number. From there, you can make your own assumptions.
Mine would be that the best figures are that maybe 1/3 of hispanics in this country are illegal (10 million out of 30 million). A pro-immigrant study recently showed that native born hispanics commited crimes at a higher rate than immigrants, legal or illegal. The study was criticized by opponent, but not on this point. In fact, the critics mostly argued that it shows the deleterious long-term effects of current immigration policies, as immigrant groups get worse, not better, over time, as was the case with earlier groups. So -- take your pick. But if we split the difference and say illegals murder at same rate as native hispanics, we get 6% of all murders, or about 1,000. That's a lot. But I think it is a better start at a methodology than the original post.
I don't care about studying numbers here in regards to this issue.
If there was only one murder committed by an illegal alien, it was one too many!!
And that one murder alone should be enough to get our worthless politicians working hard to correct the open border problem.
But I am surely no holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
If you want to see the origin and the methodology of this "study", google "Mac Johnson"+"2158 murders"
Are they banana peppers? I love those fresh or pickled.
Wait! Wasn't there a study the other day that said illegals didn't have a high crime rate in America?
Worthless comparison. More people in the United States die by choking each year than are killed in the Iraq war too. So?
Yes, I grow them too. I never pickled them . I will look into that. Thanks ~P~
You mean it REALLY is Bush's fault? : )
Sounds like a lot of BS. If they weren't here illegally they wouldn't have to 'live that way'.
I see by the low volume of posts that you were right! :)
Hey, you are describing a bunch of US Senators.