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Expert in Russian poisoning case is shot
NBC News ^ | March 2 2007 | Pete Williams

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:25:46 PM PST by jmc1969

Edited on 03/02/2007 6:14:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

FBI agents say they are assisting police in suburban Washington who are investigating the shooting of a Russian expert a man who spoke out on "Dateline NBC" last weekend and strongly suggested that remnants of the KGB were responsible for the bizarre poisoning death of Alexander Litvinenko.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kremlin; litvinenko; pauljoyal; putin; russia; russianagents
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To: grey_whiskers

Maybe Hillary IS Putin! Has anyone seen them together?


41 posted on 03/02/2007 9:11:59 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
-would have shown real panache to have dumped the body in Marcy Park.
42 posted on 03/02/2007 9:12:37 PM PST by tioga
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To: jmc1969

I love this cloak and dagger sh!+


43 posted on 03/02/2007 9:14:08 PM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: NorCalRepub

But Vlady would never order something like this. He's a Christian! He has religious icons and a Bible in his gold-plated jet! He obviously has a heart for Jesus! And our president said he could be trusted. That's good enough for me. It seems very obvious to me that two guys might just randomly run up to Joyal, shoot him in the stomach, and run off without stealing anything. Makes all the sense in the world. < /s>


44 posted on 03/02/2007 9:15:14 PM PST by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: tioga

Those "multiple gunshot" Arkansas suicides were always marvelous.


45 posted on 03/02/2007 9:15:38 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: Fairview

....yup....happens all the time.....LOL


46 posted on 03/02/2007 9:17:42 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Cicero
This sort of thing isn't the best way to persuade people that Putin didn't order Litvinenko's poisoning.

No, but you must admit it is a good method to stop them from shooting their mouths off about it.

47 posted on 03/02/2007 11:11:05 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yes, wasn't it LBJs secretary, Biily Sol Estes, who was doing some shady land deals in Texas. A US Marshal was sent to check it out, he committed suicide with a shotgun blast in the back from 10 feet away, was how LBJs coroners jury ruled it. How are they going to bury this KGB hit-story?


48 posted on 03/02/2007 11:22:17 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Netizen; COBOL2Java
>>>The Russians make the Clintons look like pikers.<<<

Why...why, its almost Mafia-like.

49 posted on 03/03/2007 4:04:49 PM PST by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: digger48

50 posted on 03/03/2007 4:59:22 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: jmc1969
"In an odd twist, another person who appeared on the "Dateline" broadcast died of a heart attack last month. Reporter Daniel McGrory of the Times of London, who has written about the Litvinenko case, died Feb. 20, before the "Dateline" segment was broadcast. He was 54.

His family said he "died suddenly at home." He was a veteran British foreign correspondent who had reported from several war zones."

Speaking any ill of the Putin regime publicly seems to have gotten to be hazardous to ones personal health. So in the interest of healthy living, let me just state for the record right here (in case the KGB is monitoring FR), I think Puty-put is a really really kewl dude!

51 posted on 03/03/2007 6:38:30 PM PST by Babu
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To: NorCalRepub

Or some other party, which was the real one responsible for Litvinenko's death, saw a good opportunity to strengthen the framing of Putin.

Not saying that's the case, but it's perfectly plausible. There are some very sophisticated cloak-and-dagger evildoers at work here, and it would be naive to assume that things actually are as they are being made to appear.


52 posted on 03/03/2007 7:04:03 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: digger48

Hillery the Horrible.


53 posted on 03/03/2007 7:18:35 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: jmc1969
Iranian energy map
54 posted on 03/03/2007 11:45:31 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There are some very sophisticated cloak-and-dagger evildoers at work here, and it would be naive to assume that things actually are as they are being made to appear.

Meaning what?

55 posted on 03/03/2007 11:45:49 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: jmc1969

I do not know what to believe.
On the one hand, the first thought you get is that Putin killed Politkovskaya and Litvinenko because they opposed him. But then you think - that it is so obvious who wants them dead is the reason why he could not have done it. Too self-discrediting.
So it might have been done by those who want to discredit Putin. But by who? Could the British and Americans come down to this? It is not likely because if that were true opponents of Bush or Blaire within their own countries would get assassinated every day.
The Chechens? Oh, they technically could have killed Politkovskaya. But that would mean killing someone who is one of the biggest protectors of their people's rights.
And they technically could not have killed someone in the UK or US.
That leaves dissidents like Berezovsky. But what makes them in apposition to the Kremlin - their non-approval of his authoritarian anti-democratic policies - makes me think they would not use their enemy's methods.

So the most likely option is that guys at the Kremlin are simply stupid and do not realize that killing someone in the West will not shut everyone's mouth but quite the contrary - will outrage the West and bring more attention and action to the situation in Russia.


56 posted on 03/04/2007 4:02:30 AM PST by Grazhdanin
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To: jmc1969

DC is a death trap area, but c'mon..


57 posted on 03/04/2007 4:04:40 AM PST by Tolsti
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To: padre35
During the Stalin's "consolidation", the Kemlin's FIS would kill people like Trotsky in Mexico, but not the US.

Tell it to Walter Krivitsky.

The Bellevue Hotel where Krivitsky was killed is now the Hotel George. This is, from my perspective, a loss. The Bellevue was a perfectly serviceable old railroad hotel a couple of blocks from Union Station. It was cheap enough to recommend to visiting friends and the location couldn't be beaten. I have smoked many a cigar there. The Hotel George is much nicer, completely rehabbed, and quite expensive. I hate sending out of town friends to the burbs but the downtown hotels are pushing me that way. The price of progress.

Anyhow, I happened to be in the Hotel George a few years back, ostensibly to check out their well-reviewed restaurant but mainly to compare it to the old Bellevue. The George was doing a marketing shtick related to the Spy Museum, which is nearby. Naturally, I asked at the desk whether they were doing anything with the Krivitsky case. I got blank stares from the three desk attendants, one of them the manager, present at the time. And so does history fall through the memory hole.

If I were running the Hotel George, I'd have the Krivitsky room restored to it's 1940's appearance, have a lobby display about Soviet espionage and KGB killers haunting Washington, get the Spy Museum to refer tourists back my way, and get in on the active D.C. history walking tour business, as well as the ghost tours around Halloween. Maybe I should become a marketing director.

58 posted on 03/04/2007 4:49:45 AM PST by sphinx
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To: jmc1969

Why isn't this front page news? MSM doesn't want to be "judgemental" about the Russians? Socialists sticking together?


59 posted on 03/04/2007 9:38:20 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794983/posts


60 posted on 03/04/2007 9:40:32 AM PST by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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