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Black Reparations: From Whom? To Whom?
United American Committee ^ | March 5th 2007 | United American Committee

Posted on 03/04/2007 10:46:48 PM PST by CaliFReeper1

BLACK REPARATIONS: FROM WHOM? TO WHOM?
By the United American Committee | March 5th 2007


Researchers have reportedly found evidence that the ancestors of Al Sharpton may have been owned by the ancestors of Democrat-turned Dixiecrat-turned Republican Strom Thurmond. This is an interesting, albeit ironic, possibility.

We are now hearing demands from descendants of West African Americanized slaves claiming reparations. Who should be responsible for paying those reparations? And who should receive them? First, what about an American Black U.S. citizen who is not a descendant from American slaves, such as Barak Obama, or others who immigrated to the U.S. from other countries? Clearly, they have no stake in this matter. Now, for those who truly are descendants of West Africans who became slaves in America, just where should their demands for reparations be directed?

Let it be said that no living black Americans have been slaves in America. It is also safe to say that no living white Americans owned slaves. In fact there are probably far more living Americans whose ancestors fought and died to end slavery because they found it ugly and absolutely abhorrent. Approximately 700,000 Americans died in the Civil War to bring an end to slavery.

So who is responsible for slavery? Some ill-informed people tend to blame it all on American southern plantation owners and ignore the role of British, Spanish, and Portuguese merchants who bought slaves and transported them to the Americas for resale. Some want to blame it on those middle-men slave merchants and slave ship owners and ignore the role of those who first seized free Africans, dragging them from their homes to be sold to the middle-men.

And just who were those at the bottom of this ugly supply chain? Who seized free men and women and forced them into slavery in the first place? History tells us in almost all cases they were Arab Muslim slavers whose religion, Islam, decreed that the taking of slaves of those they conquered is approved by Allah; A lawful reward for striving to carry out Allah's edict to his believers to force all people and all nations into Islam (submission); a doctrine which still prompts conquest, subjugation, terrorism and slave-taking today.

Some political leaders of former slave states have taken steps to apologize and to try to make some amends for this horrid but now long-abolished-in-America practice. True, without plantation owners there may have been no slave ships sailing to our shores, but as we take a closer look at the history of slavery, we see this interesting truth: it was mostly Arab Muslims who had been actively engaged in the practice of seizing and selling human beings into slavery for centuries. So, the real....the original slavers (and still in the business today) are Muslim slavers who seized and enslaved not only black Africans but also white Europeans, brown Indonesians, and olive-skinned people of India, Persia and the Mid-east.

Al Sharpton's ancestors were in all probability captured and first made slaves by Arab or Black MUSLIMS. Yes, they were eventually bought by plantation owners who needed strong healthy males and females capable of sustained hard work under onerous conditions. Those slaves at least found conditions and the courage within themselves to survive, and even raise children, their descendants now living as free people, some in America.

The same was not so for many millions of slaves of various nationalities who were captured. Often Arab Muslim slavers didn't want to deal with whole men. Eunuchs were more valuable. Many unfortunate victims were often mutilated in a most barbaric and savage manner in castration stations established along the slaver's routes. This practice continues in sub-Sahara Africa to this day. These acts were not clean and surgical. They were performed with dirty knives, and more of the victims died than lived, and still die horribly today, in Mauritania, in the Sudan (Darfur today, and who knows where next) and everywhere in between.

In lieu of reparations, our political, religious, educational, and business leaders need to not only demand, but take real steps to end the vicious ugliness of slavery and human subjugation today and for all times wherever this ugliness takes place.

And our black descendants of American slaves might more appropriately direct their demands for reparations to states of the Muslim world which first seized and enslaved their fore bearers. They might also consider that, had that not happened, they might today be living in an impoverished African nation, and themselves at risk of being enslaved tomorrow.

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This article was authored by the following writers with the United American Committee: Jim Horne, Al Rawley (Commander, USN Ret.), Jesse Petrilla, & Ted Hayes.

The United American Committee is a leading educational group dedicated primarily to awakening the nation to the threats of radical Islam, and works to educate Americans on the nature of Islamic extremism. Its mission is to protect America by fighting the ideological aspects of the War on Terror.
More information on the UAC can be found at www.UnitedAmericanCommittee.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: black; islam; uac
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1 posted on 03/04/2007 10:46:49 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: CaliFReeper1

bumity bump


2 posted on 03/04/2007 10:58:19 PM PST by coincheck (America, the most generous country on the planet.)
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To: CaliFReeper1
What happens if someone is decended from both black slaves and from blacks that owned slaves? Does he pay himself reparations?

DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT: BLACK SLAVEOWNERS

3 posted on 03/04/2007 11:00:03 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: CaliFReeper1

Hear, hear!


4 posted on 03/04/2007 11:02:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since my tribe didn't get off the boat until the 1890s, do I owe???


5 posted on 03/04/2007 11:13:01 PM PST by chadwimc
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To: IncPen

ping


6 posted on 03/04/2007 11:14:27 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: chadwimc

Just send a check for a hundred thousand to Al Sharpton, he'll make sure it gets to the "right" people...


7 posted on 03/04/2007 11:14:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: RonDog

ping


8 posted on 03/04/2007 11:18:13 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: CaliFReeper1

Any Black that feels they are not doing better here in America than their forefathers needs to go back to their country of origin.


9 posted on 03/04/2007 11:24:42 PM PST by B4Ranch (You're in America now. Here we speak English.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I once dated a black woman, who had an interesting opinion on reparations.

She was for them, but for one reason only - we could finally stop talking about it! She said, sure, some would run right out and buy cars and jewelery and live high on the hog for a while...and then the money would be gone, and they would have to shut up about it once and for all. She was embarrassed by the issue, and did'nt feel she was entitled to anything from slavery.

Me, i think it should be paid out to those who were actually slaves. Oh, there's none left? Oh well!

My Irish ancestors had their land seized by Cromwell, and forced into virtual slavery and lost all rights under British rule. Does the UK and Cromwell's descendants owe me anything? Of course not.

Slavery was a horrible practice in the history of our country, but it's in the past, and those who were actually owned and mistreated are long dead. We need to move on, not fall prey to guilt trips and nonsensical claims of "healing" that throwing money at the issue is supposed to cure. Money won't do a thing, except distract a few for a moment, think of the credit cards issued after Katrina.

If anything, the US Government should be spending money helping blacks to find out any possible records of kinship, although most records have probably been destroyed. The one issue I feel really sorry for is the disconnect that many families have with their ancestors, because of what happened. Maybe there's not much we can do, but it's better spent that way than throwing one hell of a party in the inner city for a month.


10 posted on 03/04/2007 11:27:36 PM PST by ByDesign
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To: CaliFReeper1

No reparations without repatriation.
In other words, like everybody else, love it or leave it.


11 posted on 03/04/2007 11:30:20 PM PST by Overseez
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To: CaliFReeper1; Dark Knight; Petronski; cyborg; All
Well to get honest and to the core, that is one question to resolve, is it not?

And I think that confronting this question might actually draw all of us more close together. And yes that is very vital to me.

Regards

Wolf
12 posted on 03/04/2007 11:41:22 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Remember that Hillary is half-black so get ready to bend over when she annouces she's going to push for reparations aka "the capture the black vote" initiative.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 11:41:54 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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I'll be glad to pay reparations to any slaves that I've ever owned.

Heck, I'm in a generous mood; I'll pay reparations to any slaves or even the descendants of any slaves that even my great-great grandfather owned.


14 posted on 03/04/2007 11:41:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: CaliFReeper1

Reparations are a great idea.

I'll gladly foresake my children and pay up to my total net worth that which is due any man who has suffered injustice.

Just tell me the maximum melanin threshold which defines the oppressed and if any man meets this darkness threshold I'll bring my bank transfer info.

[[f'ing madness]]

Here is an idea. I want reparations for this racist "diversity" bullsht whereby my skin color was used to strip me and my family of financial gain because of my skin color.


15 posted on 03/04/2007 11:49:32 PM PST by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: CaliFReeper1
We are now hearing demands from descendants of West African Americanized slaves claiming reparations. Who should be responsible for paying those reparations? And who should receive them? First, what about an American Black U.S. citizen who is not a descendant from American slaves, such as Barak Obama, or others who immigrated to the U.S. from other countries?

And what about whites who were descendants of the white slaves who were the slaves in the Americas before the Muslims and black Africans started selling black Africans into slavery? They should get a cut, too. And don't forget all the Chinese slaves.
16 posted on 03/04/2007 11:56:48 PM PST by aruanan
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To: RunningWolf

Wolf,

Why is this an issue. I'm as white as the driven snow, born in 1966. My anscestors came from Europe at the beginning of the 20th century. I don't own any black man decended from Africa shit except a fair shake.

Unfortunately the opposite is not true. Every day I face institutionalized racism call "diversity". If a black man of African decent can't make the grade same as any other man I don't give a fk.

My job is to apply myself and do the best I can for me and my family. There are no 'white' people looking out for me I'm aware of. In fact my skin color is my bain in corporate America.

Instead of this rediculous conversation we should be talking about dismantling "diversity".

I don't know you or your politics and but I do know there is no "boogey man", no "white blue-eyed devil" because I'm white and blue-eyed and I'm certainly not the black man of African decents problem, their mine.



17 posted on 03/05/2007 12:02:57 AM PST by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: CaliFReeper1; Dark Knight; Petronski; cyborg; All
Okay I will take 'white' 1st move on the table, and I state that any sort of material calculation (cash property etc) is worthless at this time. Don't you agree? Think About it.

If everyone wants a cash payout(0.0000001% to 3000000.00%) what difference is that really from cessation?

Are all of us little people in it together or not?

Wolf
18 posted on 03/05/2007 12:07:38 AM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

address diversity.


19 posted on 03/05/2007 12:09:28 AM PST by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: CaliFReeper1

20 posted on 03/05/2007 12:22:09 AM PST by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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