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Catholic Newspaper Tells Anti-Abortion Voters Not to Support Giuliani
FoxNews.com ^ | March 7, 2007

Posted on 03/07/2007 1:41:55 PM PST by madprof98

A Catholic newspaper is telling readers that Catholics shouldn't support White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani because of his support for allowing women access to abortions.

The National Catholic Register's editorial urges anti-abortion voters to choose another candidate other than Giuliani.

"A Republican party led by a pro-abortion politician would become a pro-abortion party," according to the editorial that appears on the Web site and is set to appear next week in the newspaper's print edition.

Editors say "they hope that pro-lifers will 'be reasonable,' not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and go along quietly," but "we won't."

"When they ask us to 'be reasonable' and go along with a pro-abortion leader, they assume that there is something unreasonable about the pro-life position to start with," the editors wrote. "We’re sorry, but we don’t see what is so unreasonable about the right to life.

"What looks supremely unreasonable to us is that we should trust a leader who not doesn’t only reject the right to life but even supports partial-birth abortion, which is more infanticide than abortion," according to the editorial.

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"Would a pro-abortion president give us a pro-life Supreme Court justice? Maybe he would in his first term. But we’ve seen in the Democratic Party how quickly and completely contempt for the right to life corrupts. Even if a President Giuliani did the right thing for a short time, it’s likely the party that accepted him would do the wrong thing for a long time," the editorial reads.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; giuliani; rudy; rudy2008
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To: California Patriot
Not, "I personally oppose it," but "I hate it." To me, that means something.

Well, what if he had said, "I really, really, really, really SUPER-DUPER hate it!" Would that have meant even more to you?

(My God, what do they put in the water in California!?!)

121 posted on 03/07/2007 7:32:58 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Patriotic1
This orthodox Catholic newspaper would never endorse Ted Kennedy. That's a given.

i am assuming that they would never endorse him, but would they say, "don't vote for him?"

122 posted on 03/07/2007 7:34:27 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: joseph20; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ..
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123 posted on 03/07/2007 7:34:34 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: DKNY
. . . being a Catholic I dont want to get into what the church does and doesnt do regarding moral issues.

Well, next Christmas, if you get up in time for mass, perhaps you can ask the priest afterwards about the Church's position on moral issues. Then you will be better informed on them.

124 posted on 03/07/2007 7:38:02 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Charles Martel
However, if this is somehow new to your diocese, I have a better question: Why NOT start with Giuliani?

it's fine that the CC start with Giuliani... i'm just wondering why this paper is coming against a liberal with an R next to his name and not a liberal with a D next to his/her name... i'm just wondering... that's all...

125 posted on 03/07/2007 7:41:19 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: shempy

with all due respect, speak for yourself, don't generalize unless you have the facts to back it up - only liberals generalize to prove an unprovable point


126 posted on 03/07/2007 8:16:10 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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To: shempy

oh yeah - one more thing - everyone is a sinner, and just because Catholics sin like the rest makes them no less Catholic - in fact, the Catholic church believes in forgiveness and give credit for doing the best you can understanding that humans are weak (or is that for protestants only)


127 posted on 03/07/2007 8:19:43 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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To: LtdGovt

The Catholic Church DOES NOT oppose the war on terror, it only questions whether or not is a just war and that has yet to be determined by the Catholic church - check your facts before you speak


128 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:10 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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To: kalee
Many Roman Catholics I know, who have voted Republican, will choose Hillary. The anti-abortion plank is all that holds them in the Republiucan party. They are anti-death penalty, pro-universal healthcare and for welfare, seeing those as social justice issues. Abortion was the deciding issue and if abortion is out of the debate, they go back to the Dems.

I both agree with you and disagree with you.

Where I disagree: Many of the Catholics that I know (and I am a Catholic myself as is my family, went to Catholic school, go to Mass every week) here in PA are anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, anti-welfare, anti-affirmative action, anti-illegal immigrant, and pro-gun.

Where I agree: They will vote for Hillary.

Yep, that's right. Because many of the older Catholics are either immigrants who came here during the Depression and think FDR saved them and/or they worked in steel mills and coal mines all their lives and think they owe their allegiance to the unions first and country and church second. And the union told them to always vote Democrat, that the Republicans were the "party of the rich" and want to "break the unions", so they keep voting Democrat and raised their kids to do it too.

129 posted on 03/07/2007 8:36:00 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: freedomfiter2
Santorum was beaten by Casey a pro-life Democrat.

I don't care what he says - Casey is not pro-life.

NOW, NARAL, etc. did not oppose Casey in the election. Why? He quietly accepts the pro-life label, but he does not defend life, like Santorum or his Casey's father.

Casey will not propose any pro-life legislation, vote for any pro-life judges, and I'm willing to bet will not even vote for any legislation that puts any limits on abortion. He was given his marching orders when he was sworn in - shut up about abortion. So he is no different than a pro-abort politician.

130 posted on 03/07/2007 8:41:07 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Mannaggia l'America

I don't care what he says - Casey is not pro-life.


I should have said that he ran as a pro-life candidate. I don't believe that he is actually pl either. Most voters don't take the time to research the candidates.


131 posted on 03/07/2007 8:45:03 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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To: madprof98

Since you've revealed yourself to be among the anti-California bigots who infest this site, I will ignore your brain-dead question.


132 posted on 03/07/2007 9:16:31 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: shempy

The Catholic Church today doesn't have any high profile bishops with the moral clarity of the late Cardinal O'Connor, so this isn't going to hurt Rudy.


133 posted on 03/07/2007 9:21:07 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: latina4dubya

Conservative Catholic publications have spoken out against Ted Kennedy and other pro-abortion politicians, but the bishops (with a handful of exceptions) don't. As much as I like conservative Christian publications, the only people who bother to read them (as well as liberal Christian publications) are those who already share their philosophy.


134 posted on 03/07/2007 9:31:11 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: madprof98

And when did the Catholic Church ex-communicate the Catholic-Democrat-congressmen who support abortion and every other sin known to man?


135 posted on 03/07/2007 9:34:00 PM PST by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: Siobhan; NYer; Pyro7480; Tax-chick
My mother must be lurking around here somewhere. She says that we should back a Fred Thompson bid for the presidency if he promises a Veep who is solidly pro-life like Melissa Hart the former House member from Pennsylvania or Sam Brownback. I don't like Fred Thompson for the way he handled a committee chairmanship, but I would choose him in a New York minute over Giuliani, Romney, and McCain.
136 posted on 03/08/2007 3:02:37 AM PST by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: LtdGovt
Bill Richardson is actually the candidate that the Democrats have who could win. I expect he will be their Veep candidate.

Bill Richardson on YouTube.

But for me voting for a Democrat is like voting for a backed up toilet.

137 posted on 03/08/2007 3:16:09 AM PST by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: Mercat

That would be the National Catholic Reporter. The Register is much more orthodox. The NCR takes the left side of just about every argument. I say "just about" because I haven't seen every article they have published.


138 posted on 03/08/2007 3:20:02 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Mercat
That would be the National Catholic Reporter. The Register is much more orthodox. The NCR takes the left side of just about every argument. I say "just about" because I haven't seen every article they have published. NCR here used to designate National Catholic Reporter
139 posted on 03/08/2007 3:21:08 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Maeve

Yes. I would think Fred Thompson with Melissa Hart would be avery positive ticket for conservatives in a number of ways. Thompson/Brownback much less so.


140 posted on 03/08/2007 3:40:37 AM PST by Siobhan (Pray, pray, pray,)
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