Posted on 03/07/2007 1:41:55 PM PST by madprof98
A Catholic newspaper is telling readers that Catholics shouldn't support White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani because of his support for allowing women access to abortions.
The National Catholic Register's editorial urges anti-abortion voters to choose another candidate other than Giuliani.
"A Republican party led by a pro-abortion politician would become a pro-abortion party," according to the editorial that appears on the Web site and is set to appear next week in the newspaper's print edition.
Editors say "they hope that pro-lifers will 'be reasonable,' not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and go along quietly," but "we won't."
"When they ask us to 'be reasonable' and go along with a pro-abortion leader, they assume that there is something unreasonable about the pro-life position to start with," the editors wrote. "We’re sorry, but we don’t see what is so unreasonable about the right to life.
"What looks supremely unreasonable to us is that we should trust a leader who not doesn’t only reject the right to life but even supports partial-birth abortion, which is more infanticide than abortion," according to the editorial.
[snip]
"Would a pro-abortion president give us a pro-life Supreme Court justice? Maybe he would in his first term. But we’ve seen in the Democratic Party how quickly and completely contempt for the right to life corrupts. Even if a President Giuliani did the right thing for a short time, it’s likely the party that accepted him would do the wrong thing for a long time," the editorial reads.
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Many Roman Catholics I know, who have voted Republican, will choose Hillary. The anti-abortion plank is all that holds them in the Republiucan party. They are anti-death penalty, pro-universal healthcare and for welfare, seeing those as social justice issues. Abortion was the deciding issue and if abortion is out of the debate, they go back to the Dems.
I'm not pro Rudy, if that's what you mean. Of the top three names I keep reading about, they all suck.
Among other things, The protection of innocent life and preservation of the natural order from assault via: Abortion Embryonic stem-cell research Euthanasia Cloning As well as defense of traditional marriage.
There are other non-negotiable issues, but:
“When it comes to direct attacks on innocent human life, being right on all the other issues can never justify a wrong choice on this most serious matter,” Bishop Olmsted wrote.
I think the really distinctive difference lies in the approach to life issues, and if this crucial thing is taken out of the GOP platform, you're going to find that there is little other than semantics that separates the GOP from the Dems. And that's a game the Dems are going to win, because they always do.
Frankly, I also think you'll see fewer and fewer differences between the parties if a very liberal candidate like Giuliani gets in. I lived in New York during the time he was mayor (I moved out shortly before 9/11) and he was certainly better than what we had had prior to him, especially on crime. But otherwise there was little difference; his judicial appointments were not particularly conservative, and in fact none of his positions was particularly conservative.
Problem?
..read some of my posts--it should be clear where I stand on the life issue...
Many Roman Catholics I know, who have voted Republican, will choose Hillary. The anti-abortion plank is all that holds them in the Republiucan party. They are anti-death penalty, pro-universal healthcare and for welfare, seeing those as social justice issues. Abortion was the deciding issue and if abortion is out of the debate, they go back to the Dems.
That's what happened to Santorum here in PA.
> Show us then where in the editorial it states what you allege.
Well, who would conservatives vote for if not Rudy who has any chance in the electoral college?
"I am a Roman Catholic and I refuse to let the Roman Catholic Church or any church for that matter tell me who to vote for president."
WTH! Not only a semi-conservative but, a semi-Catholic too?Did Rudy put something in your water?
p.s.--i am not a Rudy supporter... i am pro-life and support pro-life candidates...
You're citing a website called 'Priests for Life'. Of course they would mention abortion, stem cell research. But what does 'real Catholicism' say?
Did you know that the Catholic Church opposes the WOT? Would it be fair to call you (I assume you're a Catholic) a cafetaria Catholic because you favor the WOT?
I think the point is to keep it from becoming a choice between Hillary and Rudy. He has not been annointed, to my knowledge, and I think it's a mistake to assume that he MUST be the candidate. Aside from that, the general Catholic position at the moment is to vote for the one that you think will do the least harm.
They have a perfect right to say this. It's more than a year until the election, and we don't know who the nominees will be.
I share their concern. I like Giuliani in many ways, but this issue needs to be resolved, one way or another, or it threatens to splinter the conservative coalition.
They are not telling you WHO to vote for for President. They are urging people NOT to vote for an abortionist supporter.
Well, no. You have to distinguish between a clear and unchangeable teaching--that abortion is wrong because it always involves the taking of an innocent life--and a prudential judgment.
When it comes to war, there are only prudential judgments. All abortions are wrong. Some wars are wrong; some are right; some are a mixed bag. The Catholic Church has traditionally relied on just war theory to decide whether or not a war is justified. Among other things, this theory teaches that it is ultimately for the political leaders immediately concerned to decide whether a war is just or not. It is a prudential decision. War is never desirable, but sometimes it is necessary.
The Pope has never said outright that the war on terror was wrong. Some Vatican "spokesmen" have said as much, but they spoke out of turn and beyond their authority.
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