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Duncan Hunter, RRRINO: Reincarnated Reagan Republican In Name Only
SignsonSanDiego.com ^ | 3/9/07 | Chris Reed

Posted on 03/09/2007 6:44:43 PM PST by LdSentinal

Periodically, I get e-mails from supporters of the presidential candidacy of Alpine Rep. Duncan Hunter who express disbelief, befuddlement or fury, or a mix of all three, at my flat contention that he is a populist demagogue and anything but a principled conservative. These folks cannot fathom any talk that he's not free-trade, small-government Ronald Reagan reincarnated.

Here's a typical example of Hunterista reaction to my comment that he's been against trade deals that have been important boons to our economy:

You're supposed to be a columnist, an informed person. This is not an informed statement.

OK. If you don't believe me about Duncan Hunter's RRRINOitis, here's what the influential, admired-and-respected-in-conservative-circles Club for Growth has to say about him:

Like most Republicans, he's strong on tax cuts, but he's been part of the big government spending spree of the last 6 years. He also has a protectionist streak in him. Here are some of the more troubling votes:

NO on NAFTA YES on No Child Left Behind YES on Sarbanes-Oxley YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit NO on CAFTA YES on 2005 Highway Bill YES on the 527 bill (like most Republicans, he flip-flopped, having first voted NO on McCain-Feingold) Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.

Despite being a member of the Republican Study Committee, Hunter frequently votes NO on their fiscally conservative annual budgets (2006, 2005, 2003...)

We gave him a 49% on the 2005 Club for Growth scorecard. That places him 187th within the House GOP conference, out of roughly 230 members.

National Taxpayers Union shows a more telling trend. He was strong in the early 1990s, getting "B's" and one "A", but as time went by, like most politicians, his score dropped. For the past few years, he's been getting "C's".

Those Cs are incredibly generous. As CATO noted last year, with Duncan Hunter cheering him on ...

... President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn't cut enough spending to change his place in history, either.

Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush's first term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5 percent of GDP on Clinton's last day in office to 20.3 percent by the end of Bush's first term.

The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.

The GOP was once effective at controlling nondefense spending. The final nondefense budgets under Clinton were a combined $57 billion smaller than what he proposed from 1996 to 2001. Under Bush, Congress passed budgets that spent a total of $91 billion more than the president requested for domestic programs.

And as bad as things are on the budget front, they're about to get a whole lot worse because of a pending nightmare that Duncan Hunter -- supposed tough guy, supposed truth-teller, supposed fiscal conservative -- has chosen to ignore. To borrow from what I wrote last year ...

... the single worst problem facing this country in coming years, with the possible exception of nuclear terrorism, is dealing with the massive fiscal impact of baby boomers retiring. As we slowly transition from a nation where there are 4 working adults for every adult getting Social Security and Medicare to a nation where that ratio is 2 to 1, we will face an incredible fiscal squeeze.

As a veteran member of Congress, Duncan Hunter knows this. He's heard the warnings, seen the bipartisan studies. So what did this self-declared fiscal conservative do in 2003? He voted to make the problem much, much, much worse by extending prescription drug benefits to seniors, three-quarters of whom already have coverage. The money that was saved by all the triumphant stands he claims to have taken is infinitesimal compared to the staggering long-term national debt he helped add with this one vote, which was tantamount to civic arson.

Yeah, right, our Duncan's a fiscal conservative. ... He loves spending your grandkids' money, and by the truckload.

Duncan Hunter is no Ronald Reagan. To those who say Ronald Reagan really wasn't Ronald Reagan -- that government didn't get smaller when he was president -- well, he tried harder than any president in modern times to get Congress to control spending and wipe out whole government agencies. By contrast, Hunter and the GOP Congress of 2001-2006 kept the national credit cards hanging on a string around their necks for easy and constant use.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; catsouttadabag; duncan; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; hunter; notreagan; primary; rrrino; rudybot; thrillisgone
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To: CWOJackson

If for some reason he became the GOP candidate (meteorites take out the other candidates, black death, etc) the press would have a field day with him and his history.
***Thanks for posting your accusations & running. Pretty soon you'll catch JimRob's attention and there will be nopardons for you.


221 posted on 03/09/2007 9:10:36 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Sun

One of the two tours his son did in Iraq, included going to Fallujah

It was at the time of major house to house fighting.
His son left a good job and joined the Marines to serve his country.


222 posted on 03/09/2007 9:11:44 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: alicewonders; chet_in_ny
Chet is right. The liberals in government, civic groups and in the media detested Mr. Giuliani.

You know, people aught to listen to conservative New Yorkers who have seen Rudy Giuliani going up against special interest groups, the liberal media, the liberal unions, the liberal city council -- and winning most confrontations with them.
223 posted on 03/09/2007 9:13:06 PM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: SoCalPol

You've been reading my cookies, haven't you? Darn, that tinfoil hat is wearing out. ;-)


224 posted on 03/09/2007 9:14:56 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CWOJackson

True, true and it doesn't help Hunter any, that the person leading his team, has been smeared with Abramhof "dirt".


225 posted on 03/09/2007 9:16:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CWOJackson
I'm sure his long association with his friend Randy Cummingham, the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's accepted from defense industries and his record on military contracts is just a coincidence.

As for his friendship with Cunningham, they were both Vietnam vets and they were both San Diego congressmen, so I can understand why he would be friends with him because on the surface they had much in common.

All defense companies give political contributions to candidates that they think are promoting military spending. All candidates take contributions from companies and lobbyists. Duncan Hunter is strong on the military and promotes military spending so I don't find it in the least bit odd that a defense company would make large contributions to his campaign. I'm sure this was not the only defense company that contributed to Hunter.

Since this was probably not the only defense company that contributed to Hunter's campaign, you would have to know the other companies that contributed in order to deduce anything about his voting record. Hunter could have genuinely thought that one company was better equipped to handle a contract than another. In defense spending you don't always want to just go with the cheapest bid. It's possible that Cunningham helped sway his opinion, but that doesn't implicitly make Hunter involved in any scandal that Cunningham was involved in.

226 posted on 03/09/2007 9:16:44 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: LiberalBassTurds

HOWDY! :-)


227 posted on 03/09/2007 9:17:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sun; All

Then maybe he should stay in Congress then..


228 posted on 03/09/2007 9:18:49 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: CWOJackson

Well, then pick your poison. One of the digs against Hunter is that he doesn't have much money. Hunter is building the national organization, and doesn't need it in place for 9 months. The money thing will be handled in a 3 pronged military-style attack. 1) He's building a grassroots organization on the part with Dean's money raking capabilities. 2) He's rubbed shoulders for years with some very big kingmakers when he oversaw a $530BILLION budget for the armed services, which makes rudy's money men look like lemonade stand owners. 3) Once he starts winning primaries, he attracts bandwagon jumpers in the republican party and the republican party itself, which has lotsa dough. It's early in the football game and he's got a good running back & a couple of fast receivers, so there could very well be some big plays up ahead.


229 posted on 03/09/2007 9:19:08 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: nopardons; All

I didn't know that....


230 posted on 03/09/2007 9:19:34 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: SoCalPol
Neither Cheney nor Gingrich served either; nor did any of their children.
231 posted on 03/09/2007 9:20:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Elyse

Good research. Thanks.


232 posted on 03/09/2007 9:20:45 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo
Then you haven't been on many of the rudy threads where there's just crickets when we ask questions of substance.

No, I have read most I just don't pipe-in on all of them. IMHO the threads follow a predictable pattern that ultimately ends up in a flame war over who is, or isn't, a good conservative. I tend to never make fun of anyone else's candidate but I have taken a few shots at what I considered to be hypocrisy in the arguments and the way they are presented.

I guess the problem I have with the Rudy flaming really has no solution. I.e., if someone didn't witness first-hand what he achieved in NYC, and the battles that were fought to get there, they really can't ever understand who he is. The reporting just can't, or won't, communicate that to folks in the heartland or Left Coast. I see Rudy supporters try to communicate the above in the threads but as I said it's just not something you can put into words and have people truly understand.

I also tend to be a "big tent" ideology subscriber. There's a lot of stuff I don't like in Rudy's record but my core issues are met. So to each his own. I'll pull the "R" lever either way on election day.

LBT
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233 posted on 03/09/2007 9:21:30 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: Kevmo; All

Then in the national election he will get his butt kicked big time.. That is if he wins the primaries..


234 posted on 03/09/2007 9:21:31 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: CWOJackson; All

There we see it again. A couple of rudybots twittering with each other through the thread, populating it with pro-rudy statements is the usual MO.


235 posted on 03/09/2007 9:23:25 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, an interesting thread; though sadly, most here don't know a thing about Sarbanes-Oxley!

Good night and pleasant dreams......................

236 posted on 03/09/2007 9:25:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: KevinDavis

"Then maybe he should stay in Congress then.."

He would be even MORE effective as POTUS.

...

"I thought that Republicans didn't appease communists, and that's what we did," he said.

"Today starts the time for choosing – for every American manufacturer and laborer. You can either choose to give into China's cheating – or you can choose to join me to enforce fair trade."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20070126-9999-1n26hunter.html

January 26, 2007

SPARTANBURG, S.C. – Rep. Duncan Hunter, warning about mounting threats to U.S. security from China, Iran and North Korea, became an official presidential candidate yesterday with a pledge to champion Ronald Reagan's doctrine of “peace through strength.”

snip from: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20070126-9999-1n26hunter.html

John Hawkins: Missile defense shield.

Duncan Hunter: Yes, and I've been a strong supporter of that. I've put in the initial money for missile defense when it first started, I supported it strongly then, and I supported missile defense for Israel, very strongly. Incidentally, under my watch, we've actually deployed missile defense. We have our first missiles that are now deployed in Alaska and the west coast which had limited capability to intercept incoming ballistic missiles.

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=114155




237 posted on 03/09/2007 9:25:52 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: upsdriver
Only because you don't know about several salient points.

Time will tell; yes.

238 posted on 03/09/2007 9:26:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: aligncare

I read the Rudy threads - I've heard everyone's defense of him - I have an open mind & do my own research before I make up my mind on something. You all have your reasons for supporting him - I have my reasons for supporting Hunter.

I know I am not going to convince a die-hard Rudy supporter to come over to the Duncan Hunter side - life's too short to waste on such an impossible dream.

By the same token - you are never going to convince me that Rudy is the best choice for our party to win in 2008 - NEVER. Let's agree to disagree & stop wasting precious time with this in-fighting. It's America - we can support who we want to.


239 posted on 03/09/2007 9:26:51 PM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: rodomila

He's a lousy dresser too.
***That's really why he doesn't get your vote, isn't it? Of course, pictures of rudy in drag all over the islamofascist community, that doesn't bother you. Thank you for posting. Maybe you changed some minds today.


240 posted on 03/09/2007 9:27:45 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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