Beware the 'Christianists'?

Human Events ^ | 02/28/2007 | Robert Spencer

[ChessExpert]

A new book climbing the New York Times Bestseller List warns Americans of a minority of religious fanatics who are hijacking a great religion and working to destroy the United States Constitution and set up a theocracy in America. Nonbelievers will be discriminated against or even summarily killed.

Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Muhammad Atta? No, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Tim LaHaye. ...

[PeteB570]

Anybody remember "Blue Laws" and no alcohol sales on Sunday?

Any religion "running" things can be a bad thing. The total lack of any religion in running things can be a very bad thing.

I think balance and common sense with a religious founding is the best of everything.

[papertyger]

displacement:
noun

aggression toward a group that won't hurt you to mask fear of the group that will.

[papertyger]

Anybody remember "Blue Laws" and no alcohol sales on Sunday?

Any religion "running" things can be a bad thing.

You sure you wanted to let that much out about yourself?

[papertyger]

Sagacious as always, gaijin.

[whipitgood]

Your comment about one's religious convictions determinimg their behavior is really good. Can you reference it?

[WVNan]

Yes, I recall the Blue laws and they were something passed by local societies/states by a people who were largely Christian. Christians, however, were the majority in America for 200 years with plenty of opportunity to make America a theocracy. Why didn't they? Christians, for 200 years in America, basically ignored the government and structured their individual communities to suit themselves. That was freedom, the greatest nation ever to exist was a nation that was made up primarily by Christians. "Live and let live." was our motto. If someone sinned, we considered it his business and knew that he was headed for hell. We would try to get him to see the error of his ways and repent, but no other pressure was exerted, no laws passed to force him to repentence. We only began to get involved in politics when the liberal atheists started passing laws to force our way of life out of existence. No Prayer, No Ten Commandments, no religious expression of any kind in public, murder of babies, forced acceptance of sinful lifestyles, said lifestyle taught in our schools. Are we supposed to let them chip away at our religion and remain silent? Personally, I do not even recognize America any more.

[PGalt]

Hooray Robert Spencer!

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[PeteB570]

What?

About "blue laws", my age; Alcohol on Sunday, I do drink a beer now and again; or "religion" running things, I do at least a few things every religion could find unacceptable?

As I said I like balanced government based on a religious (Jewish-Christian) background.

While not the norm, most major religions of all kinds have some whacked out sects and individuals. I would hate to see any of them running things.

[hosepipe]

[... Peel away enough layers with any liberal, of any sort, and you will find someone who has "unresolved issues" with his Creator. ..]

That was pretty good...

[pray4liberty]

Everyone has some sort of belief system. Whether it's Christianity or something else. That belief system could be called a religion of some sort. So no one is qualified to be elected President.

Tell that to John Edwards. He just outed himself as a Christian.

[Dad yer funny]

bookmark ping , &thanks ChessExpert

[HitmanLV]

To be fair, I have encountered my share of downright cocopuff religious voters on FR. Most notable were a few who insisted that adultery was a crime about as severe as murder, and that people should be locked up for it.

I really have to question the kind of mind that finds murder and adultery as comparable 'crimes,' let alone comparable sins. Even God ranked murder higher than adultery when He gave us the commandments.

Some of these folks are strange, indeed.

[ChessExpert]

I think you are talking about someone like Chris Hedges whose views are examined in the article. Robert Spencer is the author of the article. He criticizes the thinking of Hedges and others.

[PeteB570]

"If someone sinned, we considered it his business..."

Your point backed up my post. Blue laws were enacted by Christians to force others to do it/see it their way. If things should be banned or closed on Sunday so people could worship, then why not close/ban things from Friday - Sunday?

As I said, I would have a problem with "Religion", any religion, "Running" things. I have no problem with government grounded in a Jewish/Christian background.

I have no use for Sharia.

[montag813]

Even the NYT gave this book a stinker review.

[papertyger]

Even God ranked murder higher than adultery when He gave us the commandments.

How so?

Both were punishable by death.

[Balding_Eagle]

Everyone has some sort of belief system. Whether it's Christianity or something else. That belief system could be called a religion of some sort.

There are some here who will argue with you about that, just as they have argued with me.

They believe in nothing, and are very sincere about it, claiming that it is not a belief.

Confusing words, at least for me, but they will argue that 'belief' endlessly.

[HitmanLV]

Thou shall not murder is ranked #6 and Thou shall not commit adultery is ranked #7. Even with different numbering conventions, the prohibition against murder is ranked ahead of the prohibition against adultery.

[papertyger]

What?

If you find inability to purchase alcohol on Sunday that onerous, I question your initial premise.

What do you say about the "balance" when the "balance" doesn't allow you to do something?

[CharacterCounts]

My brother suffers from Bush Derangement Syndrome. He is convinced that we currently live in a theocracy and that it should be illegal for any churchgoer to be elected president. "That's what the First Amendment means" he says.

More evidence that intelligence is not genetically based.