From The Greatest Generation To Self-Annihilation

War of Wits ^ | 9/18/06 | Jayme Evans

[verbosevet]

In World War II, it wasn't just young men who gave their all. It was women and children. It was W.A.C.s, W.A.S.P.s, and Rosie the Riveter. Kids collected scrap rubber and aluminum for recycling into aircraft parts. There were War Bonds and Civil Air Patrols. The whole nation joined the fight, convinced they'd be speaking German or Japanese if we didn't defeat Nazi tyranny or Japanese Imperialism.

Now we have The Cindy Sheehan Traveling Circus, and Dick Durbin equating the interrogation techniques of US troops to those of Nazi Germany and the Khmer Rouge. We have John Murtha calling Marines "cold-blooded" murderers, and the President of the United States calling citizens who patrol the border during wartime "vigilantes."

Timothy Leary, LSD, and Give Peace a Chance have done more damage to this country than anything in it's entire existence. When the Baby Boomers who answered their country's call in the jungles of Southeast Asia finally did come home, they were spat upon and called all sorts of vile things by their peers. Ironically, there are now yearly reunions in Canada for those who were "brave" enough to refuse orders and flee north.

[HardStarboard]

Grimmy: You said it as well as it could be said. Could be a creed for all who believe in this fight...and America.

Would also make a fine outline for speechifying by a Conservative Presidential candidate....if we can find one!!

[FlyVet]

What they are TAUGHT in school is pacifist stuff.

You got that right.

A grade school near my home calls themselves the "Peacemakers". On a brick wall erected on their playground is a mural. The faculty had the kids paint on it, among other things, a peace sign, and the globe, with stick figures of people holding hands, all the way around it.

Conspicuously missing is, you guessed it, the American Flag, and anything resembling patriotism. Flower Child Moonbat faculty, indoctrinating the younguns. Isn't that sweet?

[nmh]

It's awful.

We pay through the nose for a CONSERVATIVE private school even then, I bitch about some of the "reading" in their McGrawhill books. I got my way and they are installing a new reading program without the liberal propaganda.

[Popocatapetl]

My best info was from a gentleman who had been part of the 509th Composite Group. Yes, that one. He said that if you shot your mouth off, or even asked too many questions about the program, you would be off to the Aleutians before nightfall.

An amusing anecdote was how the army used some of the units up there for research and development. You have to wonder about their motives a little on some of that research, for example, to see if soldiers could be "trained" to digest cellulose.

That is, mixing their food up with ground up paper until most of what they were eating was paper.

Whoever thought that one up had a wicked sense of humor.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

He hated America, and went berserko when RR was elected, but was in every way at least a socialist. Bashed everything our military ever did, but never allowed me to know what he did on whatever island he was on....probably nothing. Strangely he never bashed WWII, but now that I think of it, we didn't esp have an anti-commie stance until afterward. He'd have shot Sen McCarthy if he could have, I'm sure. He also hated that I had read Masters of Deceit and openly made observations of his similarity to many things I learned in the book. I knew him well for the last 20 years of his life. He was really neither R or D....but he kind of liked Carter. Your comment gave me an "Aha!" moment. His background was Hungarian, so he said. In many ways he lived the American dream (depression excepted) but hated our country.

[353FMG]

The balkanization is done intentionally by certain politicians who hate this country and want to destroy it and everything it stands for - it is part of the globalization process.

There is very little difference between these destructive politicians and Al-Qaeda. In fact, I have more respect for that terror organization because their members do not hide behind the facade of being patriotic Americans.

[happygrl]

Ironic as the Aleutians were the only part of American territory that were occupied by the Japanese.

[Luke21]

Bush has been a sad sack. He's pathetic. He kisses up to the Muslims while his fascist security thugs shake down old bald guys like me and my aged in laws at security counters. You wouldn't believe the crap we've been subjected to in airports. The towelies go right on by. Some War on Terror.

We are fighting the usual politically correct war, tying our soldier's hands and giving them impossible rules of engagement. Then when the Muzzies attack here, a news blackout ensues on the fact that they are Muzzies. The press uses "gunmen" and "teen." And gunmen is the only time you can use non-gender neutral language.

It's madness, people. Simply madness.

[nmh]

You summed it up well.

Sorry you've had to be subjected to such stupidity.

[nmh]

Yes, they're testing the water HERE. And as you say, it's hushed up. This only emboldens them more. Embassies over seas ... the U.S.S. Cole and finally the WTC ... we just don't learn and don't want to get it. They're chomping at the bit for a bigger WTC attack.

[Rocky Mountain High]

We aren't going to win this war (the Islamic war) without the help of modernized Muslims.

[GOP_1900AD]

Never should have gotten talked into stopping the Red Scare of the 1920s, never should have let someone as ineffective as McCarthy drive it during the 1950s. Never should have allowed youth rebellion during the 60s to go much farther than the first round of cracked heads and mass arrests (including treason trials). Never should have stopped COINTELPRO.

[verbosevet]

It's funny how modern-day liberals try to paint the whole McCarthy era as a total witch hunt...

As if there aren't enemy and traitors among us. A.C.L.U., C.A.I.R. and L.U.L.A.C come to mind. They try to paint that whole era as a bunch of paranoid delusions, but anyone who knows their history knows otherwise.

[Justa]

Do the math plz. There's more than a billion members of the "Religion of Peace". We're at war with terrorist who probably make up less than 1-in-100,000 Muslims. What would you do label it a "Religion of War" and up the deployments, combat and terrorism a thousand fold? The fact is most Muslims are peaceful and not terror-inclined, particularly when they escape the control of radical Imams. Jihad is nothing more than plunder and revenge wrapped in religious piety and many Muslims know this. No one likes terrorism. Snarling, labelling and alienating the other 99% of Muslims isn't just or productive towards civil societies.

[nmh]

"Do the math plz. There's more than a billion members of the "Religion of Peace". We're at war with terrorist who probably make up less than 1-in-100,000 Muslims. What would you do label it a "Religion of War" and up the deployments, combat and terrorism a thousand fold? The fact is most Muslims are peaceful and not terror-inclined, particularly when they escape the control of radical Imams. Jihad is nothing more than plunder and revenge wrapped in religious piety and many Muslims know this. No one likes terrorism. Snarling, labelling and alienating the other 99% of Muslims isn't just or productive towards civil societies."

You really don't have a clue ... .

You'll believe anything. Are you on GWB's payroll?

I'm sure you have no interest in this since you know that Islam is the "religion of peace" but humor me ... in Europe they're scared you know what less ... they're basically taking over. Stupid NON Muslims are too busy working and having abortions so the birth rate is way down. Meanwhile the "religion of peace" as YOU see it is busily pumping out the kids.

Heck, with folks like you believing they are the "religion of peace" and sheer numbers of these little terrorists in the making - they won't have to nuke us or "terrorize" us - their numbers alone will get the upper hand taking over.

"Religion of peace" my arse! GET REAL!

[Justa]

So you think having kids is akin to terrorism? Is it the Muslims' fault their birth rate hasn't declined as fast as the europeans? If you want to blame something you should blame feminism, it's killed many more europeans.

[nmh]

"So you think having kids is akin to terrorism? Is it the Muslims' fault their birth rate hasn't declined as fast as the europeans? If you want to blame something you should blame feminism, it's killed many more europeans."

GOOD GRIEF!

How in the world can you read THAT from my reply?

THAT's insane!

Again, Muslims are breeding like rabbits. Muslim leaders have admitted that "violence" is not the answer. They see sheer NUMBERS of them as the answer. Our next generation is our kids! If we have NONE as indicated in the birth rate ... being very near zero ... we're in deep do-do.

What else are we doing? Convincing kids that Islam is the "religion of peace". In Californian, they get to be a Muslim and role play. What do we say about Christianity? We harass our kids. If they pray at lunch - it's a crime - never mind that this is perfectly LEGAL to get federal aid - many don't know this, don't have the legal money to enforce what is LEGAL because of deep pockets with the ACLU. At Christmas, we can't have a manger, Christ is an unmentionable, a Bible is NOT to be seen at school - in short we are kicking the ONLY legitimate God out of our spiritual life and culture. Christianity is the ONLY civilized belief. I didn't fully appreciate that FACT till terrorism started taking place against the U.S.. I looked over what Islam IS - love of death and total intolerance to other beliefs.

What else are we doing to our kids? Teaching them to be emotional, empty headed pacifists in PUBLIC and LIBERAL private schools. The mere sight of a gun is a horror. Fear the OBJECT. Funny how Cain and Able didn't need a gun for murder. That was the first murder recorded in the Bible - never the less - fear of a gun dominates the minds and teachings of LIBERAL indoctrination. Lack of knowing the Christian history of our country - including DATES so one can SEE what worked and what didn't in chronological order - that's fuzzy. Socialism is exalted and capitalism is scorned.

Socially homosexuality is being rammed down their throats. There is NOTHING normal about homosexuality. We have "gay" adoptions for those who can't let age be a barrier to who they molest. The proportion of "gays" that MOLEST kids is HIGHER than the heterosexual population that adopts kids. It is WHY they adopt SAME SEX babies. Foster care can testify to the FACT that this is true. No one say BOO about that - it's covered up. So you have more dysfunctional and confused kids - emotionally.

You have a point feminism is an active participant in encouraging abortion. Many females believe that it's "their body and they have the right" to murder their own at will. Islam doesn't permit abortion. They can't have enough kids. They indoctrinate their kids into thinking that violence is GOOD. Murdering the "infidel" is an honor. Compare and contrast what WE are doing versus the Muslims - it's the opposite in the most hideous ways.

So we have evil, Islam, breeding kids like rabbits and the few that aren't aborted for convenience are being raised th be godless sissies hiding behind females. Females often do the work of males - such as in war and males don't mind females doing performing their roles. While Muslims literally HIDE behind females in the name of Jihad, we let the females carry the water in laterally fighting our wars.

I'm sorry this response has rambled ... but the bottom line is as things stand NOW, we don't have a chance against terrorism or Islam. We are willingly defeating ourselves through how we are indoctrinating our kids - which is the leadership for tomorrow. It is being done through feminism and LIBERAL, godless indoctrination to our kids.

What do we rally prize in our culture? ENTERTAINMENT! And we need our anti depressant drugs as well as illegal drugs to escape the reality of the mess we have created by choice. Irresponsible people with NO knowledge that prioritize PLEASURE. This is not true in the Muslim world.

It wouldn't surprise me if these choices on our part - we're destroying ourselves within because we insist of kicking Him out of our lives and do all possible to do the opposite of what Christianity teaches us NOT to do. It's funny ... Muslims have no toleration for anyone that they believe disrespects their god - OTOH our culture can't do enough to humiliate and kick God out of our culture. Islam is the religion of Satan - not a "religion of peace". So, it's more than just feminism that is destroying us ... it's being very defiant to God - in every conceivable way - how we are raising our kids, neglecting them through worshiping the dollar and no one around to raise them ... aborting them, drugs, sex and on and on it goes.

[Justa]

"How in the world can you read THAT from my reply?

In your previous post you clearly equated muslims having kids with terrorism:

"Meanwhile the "religion of peace" as YOU see it is busily pumping out the kids.[snip] Heck, with folks like you believing they are the "religion of peace" and sheer numbers of these little terrorists in the making..."

Enough hyperbole. Muslims are overwhelmingly traditionalists, i.e., social conservatives. You don't understand the process whereby the export their problems and desires through the use of terrorists. Bush's solution is to remove the political and social conditions which produce muslim terrorism. Whether by design or accident his plan is quite ingenious. I believe if Iraq succeeds on it's present course they will be stalwart allies for peaceful existence and economic prosperity in the Middle East comparable to the UAE.

I think you'd do more to create muslim terrorism than any power-mad Sheik could possibly hope for. ; ) Until you've seen-the-light: here's to hoping your audience remains low.

[GOP_1900AD]

McCarthy's only problem was he went after the small fish instead of the big fish. It is really sad that the people who were actually accountable for national security at the time had failed so badly, such that a Senator felt he had to fill the gap. And my oh my how that gap has grown since the early 1950s.

[verbosevet]

Exactly..