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Ted Koppel Tells Shocking Truth About Iraq and War on Terror (Updated w-videos)
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Posted on 03/11/2007 2:34:52 PM PDT by SandRat

Former “Nightline” anchor Ted Koppel was one of Tim Russert’s guests on Sunday’s “Meet the Press.” As amazing as it might seem, he made some truly shocking and compelling statements about the Iraq war and the war on terror that virtually no Democrat or media member is willing to accept or report:

Here are the shocking excerpts (MSN video available here with segment 1 at minute 14:10, segment 2 at minute 19:00, and segment 3 here):

Koppel: I made a little note here of something that Ambassador Khalilzad said to you a moment ago. He said, “The region will not be stable until Iraq is stabilized.” It’s the one thing nobody talks about. Everyone is concerned about the United States being in the middle of a civil war inside Iraq. But they forget about the fact that if U.S. troops were to pull out of Iraq, that civil war could become a regional war between Sunnis and Shia. And the region, just in case anyone has forgotten, is the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil, and, I’ve talked about this before, natural gas. So, the idea of pulling out of there and letting the region, letting the national civil war expand into a regional civil war, something the United States cannot allow to happen.   

Amazing. For those interested, I wrote an article about this very subject in November. I must say I find it extraordinary that any major media figure is coming out so strongly and making such a declaration, especially on such a popular Sunday talk show.

Yet, the best was still to come, as a little later on in the discussion, Russert asked Koppel a very telling question:

Ted Koppel, you are tonight airing on the Discover Channel a special called “Our Children’s Children’s War,” the “long war” as you call it repeatedly, that this war on terror is much more than just Iraq, and it’s going to go on for a long time.

Amazing. Did Tim Russert just accidentally admit that the war in Iraq is indeed a part of the war on terror? Shocking. Yet, not close to as shocking as Koppel’s answer:

It could go on, I mean, Gen. Abizaid with whom I spoke talked into terms of generations. And, if you think about two things, that’s not so hard to imagine. Number one, the Cold War after all, lasted 50 years. Uh, we didn’t know it when we began it. We didn’t know it, we didn’t know how long it was going to be when we were in the middle of it. But, it lasted half a century.

If you look back at the elements of the war against terrorism, that war was going on, and has been going on for the past 24 years. We just didn’t connect the dots. 24 years ago, the precursors of Hezbollah blew up the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. That was 1983, 241 Americans killed. In the interim between then and now you had two attacks on the World Trade Center, you had the blowing up of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, you had the attempt to blow up the U.S.S. Cole, you had the bombing of the two U.S. embassies in East Africa. This war’s already been going on for 24 years; we were just a little bit slow to recognize it.   

Amazing. How many members of the Democrat Party or their media minions are willing to make such a claim? While you ponder that question, here was the third extraordinary statement by Koppel:

I see a lot of wishful thinking going on here in Washington right now. I mean when Congress talks about, first of all, setting these these milestones. And, the irony is if the Iraqis successfully meet the milestones, the implication is we stay. If they fail to meet the milestones we leave. That doesn’t make any sense at all. It ought to be the other way around. If they fail, we stay because they need us. If they succeed, we can start to pull out again.

So, I, I have this feeling that on the one hand, the Democrats are making a great deal of hay out of saying we have to get out of Iraq, and indeed we do at some point or another. But the notion that the war will be over when we pull out of Iraq, and even when we pull out of Afghanistan, you heard what Gen. Abizaid had to say, it’s not going to be over. It’s going to be a different war, but the war continues.

Wow. Shocking stuff that you won’t hear from most of the left, and virtually all of the media who are calling for troop withdrawals.

Bravo, Ted. Nicely done.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; frwn; hezbollah; iran; iraq; koppel; shocking; truth; wot
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1 posted on 03/11/2007 2:34:57 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
FR WAR NEWS!

WAR News at Home and Abroad You'll Hear Nowhere Else!

All the News the MSM refuses to use!

Or if they do report it, without the anti-War Agenda Spin!

2 posted on 03/11/2007 2:36:20 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

What a terrific report, SandRat. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this and post it. I'm somewhat encouraged to hear about this.


3 posted on 03/11/2007 2:37:49 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: SandRat

Hide Ted! The goons are on the move already...


4 posted on 03/11/2007 2:38:08 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SandRat
Koppel, the hell you say?
5 posted on 03/11/2007 2:38:48 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: SandRat

Now that they have some real power, the Libs are scaring themselves.


6 posted on 03/11/2007 2:38:52 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: SandRat
I find it extraordinary that any major media figure is coming out so strongly

Is Ted Koppel still a "major media figure"?

7 posted on 03/11/2007 2:39:47 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Last Dakotan

ping


8 posted on 03/11/2007 2:41:40 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SandRat

Most of our oil comes from the middle east?


9 posted on 03/11/2007 2:41:42 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: SandRat
With all the positive news lately, I expect we will see an escalation in Democrat surrender attempts. They know time is running out, and Victory will doom them.
10 posted on 03/11/2007 2:42:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing (http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/)
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To: SandRat

God bless him for telling the truth.

I guess he realized that he had to stop the madness that is Democrat by name.


11 posted on 03/11/2007 2:43:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rudy is a cross dresser, He is really a Liberal Democrat dresssed as a Conservative Republican.)
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To: SandRat

Koppel got the go-ahead from Hillary...


12 posted on 03/11/2007 2:44:11 PM PDT by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: SandRat

Bears repeating!

Bravo, Ted. Nicely done

Admin mod, please keep this one at the TOP!


13 posted on 03/11/2007 2:45:01 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rudy is a cross dresser, He is really a Liberal Democrat dresssed as a Conservative Republican.)
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To: Just sayin

I do believe that is in inaccurrate statement.


14 posted on 03/11/2007 2:45:23 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

BTTT

Thanks for posting this.


15 posted on 03/11/2007 2:46:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SandRat
I believe our top suppliers of oil are Canada and Mexico, in that order.
16 posted on 03/11/2007 2:46:41 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: SandRat
OMG .. I never thought I'd live to see the day when Ted Koppel would have such clarity of thought. My my!

I loved this statement: "I see a lot of wishful thinking going on here in Washington right now. I mean when Congress talks about, first of all, setting these these milestones. And, the irony is if the Iraqis successfully meet the milestones, the implication is we stay. If they fail to meet the milestones we leave. That doesn’t make any sense at all. It ought to be the other way around. If they fail, we stay because they need us. If they succeed, we can start to pull out again.

Unfortunately, these lefties will still pull the handle for Hillary .. even while knowing the truth about the WOT.

17 posted on 03/11/2007 2:49:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Kathy, this is a great news story, I think all on your ping list may think so too.

I think the tide in the Propaganda war has turned in our favor!


18 posted on 03/11/2007 2:49:16 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rudy is a cross dresser, He is really a Liberal Democrat dresssed as a Conservative Republican.)
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To: SandRat
Second, he said the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are part of the war on terror that “has been going on for the past 24 years” starting when “the precursors of Hezbollah blew up the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon” in 1983

Anti-Koppel Sarcasm TorpedoTM ARMED. FIRE!!

What about Jimmy Carter's Iran Hostage Crisis...which is where Nightline got started???

Cheers!

19 posted on 03/11/2007 2:50:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SandRat

He's toast. Espescially if he repeats it. The powers that be won't allow it.


20 posted on 03/11/2007 2:50:12 PM PDT by bad company (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous)
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter


ping


21 posted on 03/11/2007 2:51:04 PM PDT by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: SandRat
That's not the real Ted Kopel. Look for a pod in the basement of his home...
22 posted on 03/11/2007 2:52:23 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

LOL!


23 posted on 03/11/2007 2:53:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SandRat

Oh, BUMP THIS ONE. Thanks SandRat


24 posted on 03/11/2007 2:53:46 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: SandRat

Maybe when he was talking about "us" he was meaning Europe? I'm just poking fun, don't mind me. I watched him talk this morning and I think the Democrats and the media (redundant) are starting to get the reality check they are in such a need of.

I suspect there will be more and more of this over the next few months. After all, Hillary needs some help.

It is my prediction that alot of 'about faces' are going to be taking place in the coming months and it is going to be so much fun to use that copy and paste function when talking with supporters of the Democratic Party.

Democrats and the media( again redundant) are so painted in a corner with their anti Bush and anti Republican rants that they have no choice but to walk on wet paint seeking an exit. Their tracks are going to be fun to point out in this campaign season. I sense hundreds and hundreds of 'voting for it it before voting against it's'. ;)


25 posted on 03/11/2007 2:56:15 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: SandRat

Ted Koppel is Libertarian. I never understood the hatred spewed forth towards him on FR. Other than the fact that he worked for ABC. BTW, does NewsBusters.org only support the Republican Party agenda or do they occasionally branch out?


26 posted on 03/11/2007 2:58:52 PM PDT by TrollBridge
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To: SandRat
where we get most of our oil, and, I’ve talked about this before, natural gas

Who's this "we?"

If Koppel's referring to the United States he'd be wrong on both counts.  However, if the Persian Gulf did become destabilized, it would certainly affect the world-wide price of oil and natural gas and that would certainly impact the US economy.

 

27 posted on 03/11/2007 3:00:20 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SandRat

Awesome post! Koppel gets it! BUMP!

The program is on at 9:00 here in SE Washington where I live, for anybody wanting to watch.


28 posted on 03/11/2007 3:00:25 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Rudy? Hunter? McCain? Tancredo? Romney? Presenting WWF FR style.....)
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To: SandRat

Ping for later read of superlative SandRat analysis...:)


29 posted on 03/11/2007 3:00:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Just sayin
...walk on wet paint seeking an exit. Their tracks are going to be fun to point out ...

Wet Paint??? I didn't know wet paint smelled that odoriferous.

30 posted on 03/11/2007 3:01:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

But what about Global Warming???.../s


31 posted on 03/11/2007 3:02:17 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: TrollBridge

They do branch out.


32 posted on 03/11/2007 3:03:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Thank you Sand Rat, I still can't believe he is stating that, and it's the Truth!!!! What was Russert's reactions, he must have been freaking out!!


33 posted on 03/11/2007 3:04:39 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: SaveTheChief

There is an accompanying chart with the link.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

December 2006 Import Highlights: Released on March 5, 2007
Monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in December 2006 has been released and it shows that three countries have each exported more than 1.20 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of five countries exported over 1.00 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 69 percent of United States crude oil imports in December while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 88 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.829 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.471 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.245 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.045 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (1.010 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Angola (0.610 million barrels per day), Algeria (0.421 million barrels per day), Iraq (0.419 million barrels per day), Ecuador (0.254 million barrels per day), and Kuwait (0.163 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 9.584 million barrels per day in December, which is a decrease of 0.253 million barrels per day from November 2006.

Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum products in December, exporting 2.412 million barrels per day to the United States, which was a slight decrease from last month (2.598 thousand barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum products was Saudi Arabia with 1.491 million barrels per day.


34 posted on 03/11/2007 3:05:16 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; SandRat
Wow, Ted Koppel dancing to 'our' tune for a change!!


35 posted on 03/11/2007 3:06:59 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: SandRat

I thought I was hallucinating when I watched Koppel this am. Not only was he clear about the war in Iraq, he also pointed out what a farce the "Walter Reed" scandal is. That is, vets always get great medical care on the battlefield and immediately after, but then they disappear in the morass of gov't paperwork. It's always been that way. (Not that it should be, but it's been that way forever).

I guess that's Koppel's last appearance on Russert!


36 posted on 03/11/2007 3:08:34 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: True Republican Patriot

Yep and his face contorted terribly.


37 posted on 03/11/2007 3:08:46 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

LOL!


38 posted on 03/11/2007 3:11:40 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: SandRat
It must be that kind of day:


39 posted on 03/11/2007 3:12:27 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals.")
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To: SandRat

Ted Koppel 'gets it' wrt Iraq. wow!


40 posted on 03/11/2007 3:12:34 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: All
Please spread the word about an appeal for redress that people in the military can sign to show support for the mission:


www.appealforcourage.org

41 posted on 03/11/2007 3:13:01 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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To: SandRat
I didn't know wet paint smelled that odoriferous.

Now your talkin'!

I have to wonder if the sheeple even noticed the shift in analysis that you point out by icon's of the MSM.

I recently saw a reporter for the New York Times (Sorry, I forget his name but suspect he is British per his accent) talking with Tim Russert. He was saying things along the same lines you point out here. Timmy was visually taken aback and didn't quite know how to react.

The sheeple danger I sense now is that people will say that all this has changed because Democrats hold power in the Congress. I hope people do not fall for that....again.
42 posted on 03/11/2007 3:13:54 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: TrollBridge
Ted Koppel is Libertarian. I never understood the hatred spewed forth towards him on FR. Other than the fact that he worked for ABC.

A libertarian? I truly doubt that. The hatred is justified considering he was a Clinton shill and shilled for John Kerry on 2004.

Just because he speaks the truth this one time doesn't mean he's turned the corner.

43 posted on 03/11/2007 3:17:05 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: EagleUSA
Time to head over to the DummieUnderground and watch the heads exlode!
 
Heh, heh! This is going to be great!

Any bets on what PJ's "Dummie Funnies" will feature tomorrow?

44 posted on 03/11/2007 3:19:10 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Fudd Fan

Ping

Ted Koppel Tells Shocking Truth About Iraq and War on Terror (Updated w-videos)

He gets it!


45 posted on 03/11/2007 3:19:13 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SandRat

Koppel said that?!!!?

I stopped listening to the lop-eared fluff-head many years ago.

What kind of an epiphany did he have?


46 posted on 03/11/2007 3:26:22 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SandRat

Where did Koppel buy a brain?

I know a lot of people I'd like to refer to the same place.

Great news.

Shocking. Did the puppet masters change their tune or did he resign?


47 posted on 03/11/2007 3:27:25 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: SandRat
Wow Koppel in a lucid moment!

FWIW I loved the Boeing ad, it was very well done.

48 posted on 03/11/2007 3:32:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks, so few circuses.)
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To: SandRat

Hey, Rush was right. He said the tide of information is turning. The Dems can't even count on their MSM telling their lies anymore. It will be interesting to see how the poll watchers start flipping around with their opinions and stances on the war. Hitlery is already changing her stance... granted, it's the wrong stance but, hey, she's always on the wrong side of things.


49 posted on 03/11/2007 3:33:46 PM PDT by CT102ndInfSister (Please pray for the soldiers of the 102nd serving proudly in Afghanistan.)
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To: Just sayin
The left thinks tha tmost of our oil comes from Saudi Arabia, when in fact it comes from Canada

Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries

50 posted on 03/11/2007 3:36:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (In war, there are two exit strategies. One is called victory. The other is called defeat.)
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