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Romney says government was wrong in Schiavo case
St. Petersburg Times ^ | March 11, 2007 | Adam C. Smith

Posted on 03/11/2007 7:40:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

TAMPA -- He's campaigning hard for support from Republican social conservatives, but presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Saturday he disagreed with the government's intervention in the Terri Schiavo case.

"I think it's probably best to leave these kinds of matters in the hands of the courts," Romney said in a television interview airing today.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; euthanasia; judicialtyranny; moralabsolutes; romney; romneyschiavo; schiavo; shiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: cripplecreek

4 anyone's guess :')


51 posted on 03/11/2007 8:02:19 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: EternalVigilance

That's it for him. Next!


52 posted on 03/11/2007 8:02:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: shoebooty

I knew what you meant. ;^)


53 posted on 03/11/2007 8:03:13 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: EternalVigilance
You think the CONGRESS should have been involved in this?

What if the CONGRESS told you that you should end the life of your child?
54 posted on 03/11/2007 8:04:02 PM PDT by msnimje (Anybody know of a good CONSERVATIVE website like the one Free Republic used to be?)
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To: cripplecreek

don't hide, your post is correct - semantics aside. the reaction by Congress was "out of scope", but it was precipitated by an unyielding approach to the case by the entire judiciary, from the lowest court in florida all the way to the top. that was the big problem I had with the case - the conduct of the judiciary.


55 posted on 03/11/2007 8:04:35 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: shoebooty
It was a state's rights issue, not for the federales.

The right to life is the preeminent God-given, unalienable right. Its protection is at the very heart of the Bill of Rights in the Fifth Amendment. It also happens to be spelled out in the Florida constitution, as it is in every state constitution, in Article One, Section Two of that document.

56 posted on 03/11/2007 8:05:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: zarf

No, I'm not. I've actually *read* the Constitution and the rights that belong to each of America's citizens. I'm not talking about entitlements. LIFE is not an entitlement.


57 posted on 03/11/2007 8:05:30 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: MovementConservative

They interfered with states rights. And yes congress can pass any law that want to. If they pass a lwa that says everyone must wear their underwear on their head every second Tuesday of the month, and the president signs it, they can do it. But that does not maker it RIGHT or SMART!


58 posted on 03/11/2007 8:05:47 PM PDT by shoebooty
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Mitt just lost me.

Me too.

59 posted on 03/11/2007 8:06:16 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: editor-surveyor

While I agree removing life-support was wrong, the Congress really had no business sticking their nose in to what was a state matter, the Federal Court said as much. This is a nation of laws, not men, when men interfere, even with well intentioned purposes, then we end up with Big Brother. I thought you all were Conservatives, seems like those of you that are criticizing are selective when it comes to when you support small government....


60 posted on 03/11/2007 8:06:38 PM PDT by AKSurprise ("Massachusetts 10,555 sq miles surrounded by reality".)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sort of like cutting off the Ukraine's grain supply was an example of small government.

Remember, these people aren't trying to make any kind of coherent point. They're merely trying to cleverly turn yours against you. As they're instructed to do.


61 posted on 03/11/2007 8:06:51 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Hugo in a Pantsuit... I know, I know... it's serious.)
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To: shoebooty
"On account of Bill Frist the cardiologists's videotaped exam of her for 10 seconds."

Cardiologists? 10 seconds? Irrelevant.

The courts paid next to no attnetion to her condition (which was brain-injured but otherwise healthy, not in pain, and not terminal) and NO attention to her "self-evident" and "inalienable" rights under the Florida Constitution.

The lack of basic, fundamental legal protection for this woman --- and for other American men, women, and children similarly situated --- is a national disgrace.

And Romney should have kept his ignorant mouth shut.

62 posted on 03/11/2007 8:06:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The brain: the most complex object in the Universe, other than the Universe itself taken as a whole.)
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To: 8mmMauser
"Romney -- twin of Michael Schiavo" -- PING

"I think it's probably best to leave these kinds of matters in the hands of the courts," Romney said in a television interview airing today.

63 posted on 03/11/2007 8:07:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: MovementConservative; All

Cause they where interfering in state matter...


64 posted on 03/11/2007 8:07:10 PM PDT by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
For a guy courting the right-wing, this was a bad, bad move.

Since when does the "right wing" want the government interfering in family business?

Do you want the government putting your daughters on birth control?

Keeping government out of personal lives means you have to take the good with the bad.
65 posted on 03/11/2007 8:07:27 PM PDT by msnimje (Anybody know of a good CONSERVATIVE website like the one Free Republic used to be?)
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To: shoebooty
SO who should have decided?

When Terri's parents objected to having their daughter starved to death and could get no redress from an out of control probate judge, they had every right to exercise their constitutional rights. And the governor and legislature had a right and a duty to act within their powers to address an area that, I believe was not clearly defined.

That being, may someone with power of attorney starve his ward to death?

66 posted on 03/11/2007 8:07:31 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: zarf
It was PURE politics. It was a strip tease for the base....period.

LOL!
perfectly put!

67 posted on 03/11/2007 8:08:26 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: pillut48; All

There is no right to life in the Federal Constitution.....


68 posted on 03/11/2007 8:08:33 PM PDT by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: oceanview

I did learn that I'm going to have a living will and I'm going to specify that I want to be allowed to die but DO NOT starve me to death.


69 posted on 03/11/2007 8:08:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: msnimje
What if the CONGRESS told you that you should end the life of your child?

Rubbish.

70 posted on 03/11/2007 8:09:03 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh Geez. The fifth amendment pertains to Trial and Punishment, criminal proceedings.


71 posted on 03/11/2007 8:09:28 PM PDT by shoebooty
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

LOL.........did he ever HAVE you?


72 posted on 03/11/2007 8:09:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: KevinDavis

Oh, I get it. You must be pro-abortion as well. :*(


73 posted on 03/11/2007 8:10:01 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: shoebooty
The dude is right. This was no place for the government to get involved.

So you don't think the courts are "government." Huh?
The same "government" that decided Rowe v Wade and "takings" of private property and gun restrictions, and prayer in public schools, and Elian Gonzales deportation to Cuba and, and...

74 posted on 03/11/2007 8:10:18 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: msnimje
What if the CONGRESS told you that you should end the life of your child?

Well, I'll burn up your straw man, if you insist.

If Congress did such an unconstitutional thing, they would need to be resisted by every other branch of government, and by every citizen. They would have made themselves lawless.

And that's the point in Terri's case. A local judge issued a literal death warrant, to be carried out by cruel and unusual means. Every individual who had raised their hand and sworn to uphold the constitution had an obligation to resist such an unconstitutional act with all their power and might.

75 posted on 03/11/2007 8:10:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: AKSurprise
While I agree removing life-support was wrong,

Read up on the damned case and stop embarrassing yourself.

76 posted on 03/11/2007 8:11:05 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: shoebooty
Good ~ you vote for him.

That pretty much wipes him out of contention though.

77 posted on 03/11/2007 8:11:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AKSurprise; All

You are talking to Selective Conservatives...


78 posted on 03/11/2007 8:11:25 PM PDT by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Interesting relevant article:

Brief Awakening From a Coma (fully conscious for 3 days after six years then relapses)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1797899/posts


Brain damage doesn't come and go, she woke up, talked, ate, even gave an interview to the local TV station, after being in a vegetative state for six years.


79 posted on 03/11/2007 8:11:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: don-o

Her husband, no matter what we think of him, was LEGALLY her next of kin.


80 posted on 03/11/2007 8:11:38 PM PDT by shoebooty
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To: vox_freedom
Mitt just lost me.

Me too.

So who's your candidate now? Bill Frist?

You 100%ers kill me.

81 posted on 03/11/2007 8:12:16 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: don-o; All

Fair question, why don't you answer it????


82 posted on 03/11/2007 8:13:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: KevinDavis
There is no right to life in the Federal Constitution.....

So, make your larger point from that brute fact.

83 posted on 03/11/2007 8:13:22 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: shoebooty
Are you psychotic?

Can you prove it?

Do we care?

84 posted on 03/11/2007 8:13:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EternalVigilance
Romney and Bush are the poster boys for weak executives who are so brainwashed by the judicial supremacist myth that they will ignore their oath to uphold the constitution and let out-of-control judges destroy our most basic societal standards and even the very right to live of citizens.

I wish I has a dime for every time you wrote "judicial supremacist."

How about you give two examples of each man doing this in what you consider to be the WRONG way and enlighten us all as to the action they SHOULD have taken.
85 posted on 03/11/2007 8:13:53 PM PDT by msnimje (Anybody know of a good CONSERVATIVE website like the one Free Republic used to be?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Besides, the courts is the government.
susie


86 posted on 03/11/2007 8:13:56 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: don-o

WOW, emotional, and irrational, feeding tubes are a type of life support. Too bad you can't hear past the echo chamber in here.


87 posted on 03/11/2007 8:14:27 PM PDT by AKSurprise ("Massachusetts 10,555 sq miles surrounded by reality".)
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To: KevinDavis

It's one of those unenumerated rights. The founders obviously thought nobody could be stupid enough to need it spelled out in the Constitution.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."


88 posted on 03/11/2007 8:14:29 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!!)
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To: KevinDavis

Sure there is. It's right there in the preamble.


89 posted on 03/11/2007 8:14:33 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: shoebooty
Let me clarify a bit more. It was a state's rights issue, not for the federales.

Forget the clarifications and explanations, my Freeper friend, the cat's out of the bag. All we can do now is hunker down and wait till the storm blows over.

90 posted on 03/11/2007 8:15:17 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: AKSurprise

I suppose baby bottles and spoon feeding for paraplegics is "life support", too?


91 posted on 03/11/2007 8:15:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!!)
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To: vox_freedom

Roe V Wade is a states rights issue. Keilo was a states rights, gun restrictions are states rights. Prayer IMHO does not need to be in the schools. Elian had every right to be weith his father, no matter how much I disagree and hate Castro.


92 posted on 03/11/2007 8:15:46 PM PDT by shoebooty
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To: pillut48; All

No I believe in STATES RIGHTS!!!!!! AMENDMENT 10 OF THE US CONSTITUTION!!!!!! Even if Rove Vs Wade is overturn. Some states will have it and state won't have it...


93 posted on 03/11/2007 8:15:51 PM PDT by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: shoebooty

Abortion is LEGAL too, doesn't make it RIGHT.
Why is that so hard to understand?? :*(


94 posted on 03/11/2007 8:15:54 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: don-o
What if the CONGRESS told you that you should end the life of your child?

Rubbish.

Is that what you call the "rights" of the parents of Terri Schiavo whose daughter was starved and dehydrated in front of them?

95 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:00 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yep me too.

We need a REAL candidate. BAH!


96 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:13 PM PDT by BlueZeus
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To: AKSurprise; Agnes Heep; agrace; Aliska; amdgmary; AnAmericanMother; A-plus; atruelady; attagirl; ...
" I thought you all were Conservatives, seems like those of you that are criticizing are selective when it comes to when you support small government...."

It is beyond me to understand how this is a "smaller government" issue. Moral absolutes have to come first; allowing that woman's estranged husband to kill her for the money is certainly not small government, it's illegitimate government

97 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: pillut48

Never said abortion is right.


98 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:43 PM PDT by shoebooty
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To: EternalVigilance

Give him until tomorrow; I'm sure he'll change his mind.


99 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:44 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: shoebooty

Her kin WAS trying to make the decidions, but were usurped by a stranger who was living with another woman who bore his children.


100 posted on 03/11/2007 8:16:45 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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