Intelligent Design Scientists Will Showcase Evidence Challenging Evolution

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[truthfinder9]

Intelligent Design Scientists Will Showcase Evidence Challenging Evolution at Knoxville Conference

KNOXVILLE – What is intelligent design and what scientific evidence supports it? Why is it so controversial? How does it differ from Darwin’s theory of evolution? Is there a purpose to the universe? What new scientific facts are turning evolutionary theories upside down? This one-day conference will answer these and other intriguing questions.

The emerging scientific theory of intelligent design is a hot topic at universities and research institutions around the world, and is now the focus of a day-long conference called Darwin vs. Design, coming to the Knoxville Convention Center on March 24th.

Join The New York Times bestselling author Lee Strobel and a panel of scientists and experts at the Darwin vs. Design Conference as they explain the evidence for Darwin’s theory of evolution and the emerging scientific theory of intelligent design Saturday, March 24th.

Featured speakers include:
-Lee Strobel, journalist and bestselling author of The Case for a Creator.
-Dr. Stephen Meyer, Director, Center for Science and Culture (CSC) at Discovery Institute, and co-editor of Darwinism, Design, and Public Education
-Dr. Michael Behe, Lehigh University biochemist and author of the bestselling book Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution, and CSC senior fellow
-Dr. Jay Richards, co-author of The Privileged Planet, and CSC senior fellow

Attendees will interact with intelligent design scientists and philosophers whose discoveries in cosmology, biology, physics, and DNA present astonishing scientific evidence that is overturning the evolutionary thinking of the past. Conference goers will hear firsthand the astounding implications these discoveries are having on our society, our politics and our culture.

The conference is $55 for General Admission and $5 for Students and teachers (with valid school ID at time of admission). Advance purchase group rates are also available by contacting conferences@discovery.org. Purchase tickets online at www.ticketweb.com (use key word Darwin). For more information visit our website at www.darwinvsdesign.com.

[Elsie]

St. Augustine

On the Literal Meaning of Genesis

I wonder if he had any thoughts on the 'literal' meaning of the bread and wine of the Lord's Supper?

[Elsie]

They lived back in the days of DOS.

Digits
On
Slate??

[Elsie]

We may be opposites re: evolution, but that line did make coffee come out my nose.

Well GOOD!

We will have this 'argument' till we die, I fear, but if we can joke about stuff as we do; it'll make the journey a bit better.

;^)

[Elsie]

"Throw his ass out!

He's a Crevo! He's a Crevo!

He's a Crevo! A Crevo!

Look, there's a Crevo!"

[Elsie]

OK, 55$ for some good comedians is fair.

Dang!!

This was supPOSED to go with the post above!!!

[Elsie]

Either of these scenarios would disprove the current theory of evolution.

[Elsie]

There are a number of observations that show we live in a heliocentric solar system.

OF course; that's why it was believed to be this way for so long.

Only when more ACCURATE data was able to be discovered, then the old was replaced with the newer.

[Elsie]

That's the very definitition of a blog:

MY viewpoint, for all the world to see!

[Elsie]

 I do not believe in any form of evolutionary belief that says otherwise - and perhaps he chose to have us evolve by our own free will.

 

 

Ok; this statement baffled me ;^)

 

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Let's see if there are verses that might shed light on how fast GOD works.....

Isa 48:3 ... I have declared the former things

from the beginning; and they went forth out of My mouth, and I shewed them; I did [them] SUDDENLY, and they came to pass.

Indeed!!

Genesis 1
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

 

This is a GOD who creates by speaking; but; how LONG did it take?

 

Now Jesus was a man who had God-like powers. Was HE God? The Book says so.......

NIV Colossians 1:13-17
13. For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
14. in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
17. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

NIV Revelation 4:11
"You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being."

NIV Revelation 10:6
And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!

 

Notice that when this man speaks, things happen RIGHT NOW! Not after some times passes and Nature takes it's course.

NIV Matthew 8:2-3
2. A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean."
3. Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy.

NIV Matthew 21:19
Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.

NIV Mark 1:41-42
41. Filled with compassion, Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!"
42. Immediately the leprosy left him and he was cured.

NIV Mark 5:41-42
41. He took her by the hand and said to her, "Talitha koum!" (which means, "Little girl, I say to you, get up!").
42. Immediately the girl stood up and walked around (she was twelve years old). At this they were completely astonished.

NIV Mark 10:51-52
51. "What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see."
52. "Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.

NIV Luke 5:13
Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" And Immediately the leprosy left him.

NIV Luke 5:24-25
24. But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ." He said to the paralyzed man, "I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home."
25. Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying on and went home praising God.

NIV Luke 8:44
She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and Immediately her bleeding stopped.

NIV Luke 13:12-13
12. When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, "Woman, you are set free from your infirmity."
13. Then he put his hands on her, and Immediately she straightened up and praised God.

NIV Luke 18:42-43
42. Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you."
43. Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.

NIV Acts 9:33-35
33. There he found a man named Aeneas, a paralytic who had been bedridden for eight years.
34. "Aeneas," Peter said to him, "Jesus Christ heals you. Get up and take care of your mat." Immediately Aeneas got up.
35. All those who lived in Lydda and Sharon saw him and turned to the Lord.

NIV Matthew 8:13
Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.

NIV Matthew 15:28
Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

 

Now if this same personage, who does things in an instant; how LONG would it take Him to CREATE all that we find around us???

[doc30]

Can you tell the difference between a fact and a claim, boys and girls?

Based on everything you've posted on this thread, you are going against this bit of conventional wisdom. Hasn't anyone ever told you not to drink the bong water?

[Elsie]

There are two theories - we were created in His image spiritually (love, respect, etc.) or we look like Him.

 

Two theories?

 

Or one record.

 

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NIV 1 Corinthians 11:7-9
 7.  A man ought not to cover his head,  since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
 8.  For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
 9.  neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

 

NIV 2 Corinthians 4:4
   The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 

NIV Colossians 1:15-16
 15.  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
 16.  For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Planets orbiting the Sun farther out than the orbit of the Earth will not exhibit phases, as we can only ever see the face pointed toward the Sun.

Well, we CAN, but NOT the complete phases.

 

Consider...                                                   Mars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                               SUN                  Earth         

 

 

 

As we look toward Mars, there would be a sliver of dark on the right side

 

[Dominic Harr]

Strictly speaking, it's not the 'gravitational pull' but the 'laws of gravity'.

It's the dynamic interaction of the mass of the two bodies. Which is what I just said. :-)

All of which brings up the point -- this is evidence of a helio-centric solar system . . .

[GourmetDan]

"The phases of Venus only make sense if Venus is orbiting the Sun closer in than the Earth. Planets orbiting the Sun farther out than the orbit of the Earth will not exhibit phases, as we can only ever see the face pointed toward the Sun."

Sorry Junior. All it means is that Venus is closer to the Sun than the Earth and that's not a point I dispute. It means absolutely nothing wrt what is orbiting what. That is Einstein and Hoyle's point.

And you are wrong about planets orbiting farther out than earth not exhibiting phases. They do. Just not as much as the inner planets.

http://www.ucolick.org/~mountain/AAA/answers/planets/pl38.html

"I must admit it is strange having to explain this to you. It's almost like talking to someone from the Middle Ages."

I must admit that it is completely expected having to explain this to you. It's like talking to someone whose strawman understanding of the issue is from the Middle Ages.

Having thoroughly embarassed yourself with your ignorance, why don't you go study the subject a little before you embarass yourself any further.

[GourmetDan]

Worse that a Crevo.

He's the lowest form of life possible, a geocentrist! ;-)

[GourmetDan]

"Based on everything you've posted on this thread, you are going against this bit of conventional wisdom. Hasn't anyone ever told you not to drink the bong water?"

Ah, the old reliable 'appeal to ridicule' fallacy.

How appropriate that it comes from you.

[voltaires_zit]

Elsie, why would your God be a lying, deceiving ***hole who put evidences all around us for the great age of the earth that any with wit may find for themselves, and only told the truth to some bronze age goat herder?

Wouldn't it have been easier to make the truth visible?

[RadioAstronomer]

Do you even have a clue as to what I am talking about?

[DungeonMaster]

why would your God be a lying,

He didn't lie, read the bible, it's all right there.

[voltaires_zit]

> The truth is that there is no 'observed fact' uniquely
> supporting heliocentrism and you are totally unaware of
> that fact. Ever understand what coordinate systems (CS)
> in Einsteinian relativity actually means?

If you're referring to special relativity, Einstein specified "inertial" frames of reference, meaning not accelerating with respect to each other. At rest with respect to the center of mass of the earth and at rest with respect to the center of mass of the sun are not such easily swappable systems because the earth is accelerating with respect to (orbiting) the sun.

If you go all the way out to general relativity, there is the easily measured fact that the sun is a much, much larger distortion in the fabric of space-time than the earth.