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The New Dean Political Plan ( Vermonts Village Idiot Reveals Dem Strategy for 2008)
The Politico ^ | March 15, 2007 05:25 PM EST | Roger Simon

Posted on 03/15/2007 5:17:27 PM PDT by Candor7

The New Dean Political Plan

By: Roger Simon

March 15, 2007 05:25 PM EST

Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean has been meeting with world leaders to repair "the extraordinary damage" that the Bush administration has done to America's image and to prepare the way for a new Democratic president.

"I am trying to build relationships with other governments in preparation for a Democratic takeover," Dean told me. "I want to make clear that there is an opposition in America and that we are ready to take power and that when we do, we are going to have much better relationships with them."

In an hour-long interview at Democratic National Committee headquarters Tuesday, Dean also revealed that he has been quietly meeting with well-known Christian evangelical leaders in order to build new bridges between them and the Democratic Party.

"We're never going to convince them on civil rights for gay people or abortion rights," Dean said. "But we certainly can focus on the things that we both care about a lot: global warming, poverty and the materiality of our culture."

And, oh yeah, Dean could run for president again.

"I have no idea," Dean replied when I asked him if he would. "I hope we are going to elect a Democratic president, and I won't have to think about it until 2016. In which case, I will be a lot older than I am now."

Dean would be 68 in 2016, which is younger than John McCain is now.

I asked Dean if he missed running.

"Oh, of course. Are you kidding? Who wouldn't miss it?" he said seriously. "I don't miss the 18-hour days, seven days in a row. But the adrenaline rushes and the tactics and all that kind of stuff, I miss that. But I like what I am doing, and I never wish I were running in this cycle."

Though Dean's presidential candidacy flamed out early in 2004, he made at least three significant contributions to the Democrats: He legitimized opposition to the Iraq war within the party leadership, he ushered in a new era of aggressive in-your-face campaigning, and he recast the party as willing to fight for Democratic ideals rather than compromising with Republicans.

And he hasn't changed his style.

When I asked him if Republicans would always be seen as tougher than Democrats when it came to national defense, he said: "It is possible to be tough without filling Walter Reed with 12,000 wounded kids and then not taking care of them."

Dean went on: "Now that we have a real problem with Iran, there's not much we can do about it because of the president's incredible foolishness in running our armed forces through the gauntlet in Iraq, which wasn't necessary."

He also said that having "the moral high ground" is part of defending the country.

"A strong national defense depends on having well-trained troops and good weapons systems, but it also depends on having the moral high ground, and this president has given up the moral high ground around the world, and that's a disaster for the country's defense," Dean said.

On the pending battle between the two parties on immigration reform, Dean said: "I think the Republicans have decided they don't want to do anything about immigration because they are scared. The best kind of immigration reform is a much better working relationship with Mexico. We will never solve immigration problems in this country without improving the Mexican economy dramatically."

Dean is very concerned about world affairs and believes that after the November election in 2008, the president-elect should take a month off and travel the world to bolster America's image.

"During the Cold War, we certainly had people who didn't like us, but they respected us," Dean said. "Now, unfortunately, they don't like us and they don't respect us. And that needs to be fixed. And I consider one of my informal jobs to help fix it with like-minded world leaders so we do have some relationships."

Dean also said that the Bush administration's failure to cope with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina was a turning point for the country.

"It destroyed George Bush's presidency," Dean said. "Permanently. The one thing that Americans and everybody else in the world have always believed, whether you like America or not, whether you like the government or not, is that the most organized, best managers in the world are the Americans. And if anything really, really awful happens, send in the Americans. And we all saw on television around the whole world, that this just wasn't true of this president and this government. It was just ludicrous. It's still ludicrous to this day."

In his famous speech to the winter meeting of the Democratic National Committee in 2003, Dean, then a presidential candidate, upbraided the party for too much timidity and too much coziness with Republicans.

"That's why Democrats didn't win for a long time," Dean said Tuesday. "Harry Truman said if you run a Republican against a Democrat who behaves like a Republican, the real Republican wins every time."

Confrontation is not what Dean is looking for when it comes to the Christian right, however.

"I think you're going to see in the Democratic progressive community and in the evangelical community a spirit that says we don't have to compromise our beliefs but we can work with others when we find common ground," Dean said. "We got 29 percent of the evangelical vote in the 2006 election and that's up 10 points from 2004. Now, I don't think that necessarily means we're going to get it in 2008, but we shouldn't be afraid to try to reach evangelicals."

And what is the common ground that Democrats and evangelicals can reach?

"We both think the culture is too material and not spiritual enough," Dean said. "Our solutions and our language about those problems may be different, but the concern is the same."

I asked Dean if he agreed with some in his party who say that things look so good for the Democrats in 2008, they virtually can't lose.

"That is what I call magical thinking, and Democrats have been very guilty of it for a long time," Dean said. "I don't admire much about Republicans, but one thing I do admire is that they don't engage in magical thinking."

Dean said that the Democratic Party is busy raising money and organizing in every state and that "we have a turnout operation that we think is better than the Republicans' now."

"But winning is going to be hard work," Dean said. "This race is going to be won in 2007, not 2008. It is all going to be about how well you prepare."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; dims; dumbocrats; election; electionpresident; elections; headrat; ihaveascream; liberalmeathead; rats; yeeeeargh
Deaniac mouths off again, and spills the beans. Its so good to have him blabbing about his own party. ( Grin)
1 posted on 03/15/2007 5:17:31 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7

Global test!


2 posted on 03/15/2007 5:26:20 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Candor7

I calls it treason.


3 posted on 03/15/2007 5:26:45 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Howard Dean is living proof that there is no justice in this life. Every day people step out in front of traffic,have strokes,heart attacks and fatal falls.And every day it's NOT him.


4 posted on 03/15/2007 5:33:33 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: sgtbono2002

I calls it treason!

I agree!

Lets make him walk the plank


5 posted on 03/15/2007 5:43:22 PM PDT by stockpirate (To learn about John Kerry, FBI files and the VVAW read my about me page on FR.)
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To: Candor7

The one thing that Americans and everybody else in the world have always believed, whether you like America or not, whether you like the government or not, is that the most organized, best managers in the world are the Americans.

For Howard and the Democrats it's all about "management".

I don't need no stinking manager, I'll manage myself thankyou.


6 posted on 03/15/2007 5:46:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Candor7
Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean has been meeting with world leaders to repair "the extraordinary damage" that the Bush administration has done to America's image and to prepare the way for a new Democratic president.

"I am trying to build relationships with other governments in preparation for a Democratic takeover," Dean told me. "I want to make clear that there is an opposition in America and that we are ready to take power and that when we do, we are going to have much better relationships with them."

This is really scary. They are going to apologize and grovel before the Europeans and Muslims. Much better relationships with them means we must submit.

7 posted on 03/15/2007 6:15:09 PM PDT by Sender (Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.)
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To: All

SOS -scrap our sovereignty. Vote Rat!


8 posted on 03/15/2007 6:19:52 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Candor7

As I recall, isn't there a law that prohibits private citizens from negotiating foreign policy? The Putz/Kerry Act or some such?


9 posted on 03/15/2007 6:19:59 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Candor7

Who is the Republican Chairman?

What has he done or said which was newsworthy?

Like Dean or not, he is doing his job. His counterpart?


10 posted on 03/15/2007 6:24:22 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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I hereby correct my post. It is not the Putz/Kerry Act. It's the Logan Act and Howard Dean is subject to a 3 year jail term if Gonzalez wants to have him tried and convicted. (not holding my breath)
11 posted on 03/15/2007 6:27:54 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Sender

World leaders....but not mentioned by name. Guess Dean is smart enough to figure out that if he starts down reciting our nation's enemies list, it might cost the Dems votes?


12 posted on 03/15/2007 6:28:16 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (China & India: Doing jobs Americans don't want to do (manuf., engineering, accounting, etc))
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To: DeFault User
As I recall, isn't there a law that prohibits private citizens from negotiating foreign policy? The Putz/Kerry Act or some such?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are correct but you know, this is Deaniac getting ready to be Secretary of State under a new Dem president. He is so confident of a Dem win in 2008 that he is salivating at his potential reward.

I got to watch this POS in Vermont for too many years as "governor" of this moonbat state.I know him all too well.

He sees himself as the "nouveau diplomatique " of America. Enough to make a person barf and get behind a conservative candidate.

Why would anyone want this idiot to be Secretary of State ?

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13 posted on 03/15/2007 6:31:20 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: OldArmy52
I doubt if Dean is meeting with Osama, but if you make a list of world leaders on record as hating Bush, those would be the ones.

With the frumpy Europeans, what does "better relationships" mean? Does it mean we would consult with them first and consider their feelings about American actions?

As for the Islamic world, "better relationships" needs no explanation. We don't need a whole camel in our tent.

14 posted on 03/15/2007 7:36:23 PM PDT by Sender (Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.)
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To: Candor7

Let's not disparage Howie so much that we lose sight of the fact that he, basically, engineered the takeover of Congress last year by the Dems. He may be a moonbat, but here we are 5 months later, licking our wounds, blaming each other and questioning the future of the Republican Party.

Perhaps we need to shift our focus away from battling the Democrat Party to gaining control of the MSM. Without the support and endorsement of the MSM, Howie and the Dems would really be moonbats howling at the moon and twisting in the wind at the end of their own treachery.


15 posted on 03/15/2007 7:57:32 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Candor7

No president has ever had to deal with 2 xpresidents going overseas and cheap shotting and back stabbing America, the military, and our sitting president in a time of national crisis.


16 posted on 03/15/2007 8:47:24 PM PDT by tkathy (Rudy/DennisMiller 2008)
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To: Candor7

RUN HOWIE RUN!!!


17 posted on 03/16/2007 5:26:58 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Candor7

I like your addition to the title for this thread, but let's be fair, shall we? Howie isn't just Vermont's village idiot. He's America's village idiot.


18 posted on 03/16/2007 5:32:17 AM PDT by seanmerc
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