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Imams' suit risks 'chill' on security
Washington Times ^ | March 16, 2007 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 03/16/2007 1:30:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Six imams who are suing an airline and an airport for removing them from a flight also have aimed the lawsuit at passengers who the imams believe reported some of their activities.

The suit filed this week in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis names as defendants "John Does" who "contacted US Airways to report the alleged suspicious behavior" of the imams before the Nov. 20 flight -- an inclusion some lawyers, who are not connected to the litigation, say will have a "chilling effect" on airline security.

"If such a suit could proceed, it would have a chilling effect on the willingness of people to provide information that authorities need to act when people are engaged in wrongdoing," said Mark Behrens, a liability defense lawyer with the Washington firm of Shook, Hardy & Bacon.

"If reporting suspicious behavior becomes actionable, that could have a dangerous precedent for reporting other crimes, like child abuse and abductions," Mr. Behrens said. "It's certainly a form of intimidation to go after passengers."

The lawsuit primarily targets US Airways and the Minneapolis-St. Paul Metropolitan Airports Commission, but suing passengers who report suspicious behavior "sends a terrible message if we are at all concerned about the threat of terrorism," said Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of several books on litigation in the U.S.

"The implications are that if you appear to just buzz about what you perceive to be a security threat then you are a legal wrongdoer and responsible for damages, even if all you did was notify the authorities. And that would have a tremendous chilling effect, win or lose.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlines; dryrun; flyingimams; imams; intimidation; islam; johndoes; lawsuit; litigation; muslims; nationalsecurity; questioning; suspiciousbehavior; terrorism; threats
I wonder if muslims will sue every "Jane Doe" who ordered one of Brian Archer's T-shirts next?


1 posted on 03/16/2007 1:30:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If I were a passenger on that ill fated flight I would sue these guys....


2 posted on 03/16/2007 1:31:47 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

that's exactly what they want..make people scared to say anything for fear of being sued..thus making the "final" roadblock, that is, passengers taking matters into their own hands, much more difficult..

death by a thousand cuts..


3 posted on 03/16/2007 1:41:58 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Never argue with an idiot..they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience..)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television, but it seems to me that some interesting things could be dug up during the discovery phase if the defense lawyer looked to see if the Imams actually had ties to terrorism.


4 posted on 03/16/2007 1:44:31 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!)
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To: Cindy; Kakaze

"Flyin' Imams" ping......

This list is just beginning.

If you'd like to get on board, FReepmail me.


5 posted on 03/16/2007 1:58:35 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

" Mark Behrens, a liability defense lawyer with the Washington firm of Shook, Hardy & Bacon."
Perfect name for a bunch of lawyers!


6 posted on 03/16/2007 2:04:08 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


7 posted on 03/16/2007 2:07:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Unless this is thrown out of court early, the lesson learned will be that next time someone sees something, it may be safer to stay quiet and hope someone else reports it. Even if the charges get thrown out or dropped, this is an announcement that you could be caught up in litigation for years and spending your savings on lawyers."

This is the exact message these “Holy Men” are sending to the American people. These Imams are terrorist of a different kind; Tort Terrorist.

They have learned from reading our news papers that Lawyers can be used as weapons.

In the airport and on the plane they acted in very provocative ways to garner attention and instill fear in people that were preconditioned by the events of September 11, 2001 to be suspicious of Muslims.

So now they are busy plowing the ground for the traditional Islamic Terrorist, making it easier for them to do their work by making people afraid to report the activities of deadly form of the beast.

This form of terrorism will also work its magic on the airline and other industries. Even should the lawsuits fail the industries will be gun shy of taking action against Muslims unless they have already made their terrorist nature clear beyond any doubt. They may have to actually yell I have a bomb before flight attendants take action.

These Imams have already done great damage.

8 posted on 03/16/2007 2:42:03 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Pontiac
Ah yes, our "moderate Muslims" acting out again...
Just your typical Muslim, trying to fit it and get along.... Forcing everyone to accept whatever $hit they wish to deal out, or ignore any pattern of behavior that may be threatening....

Folks -- we can't be far from dealing with these assholes in a manner in which they are fully accustomed to and practice themselves....

Someone once said ",,,,the Arabs always are either under your heel or at your throat."

It appears he knew what he was talking about.

Semper Fi

9 posted on 03/16/2007 6:54:50 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Pontiac

They need to be told to leave for their jihadistans, before the door closes on them.


10 posted on 03/16/2007 7:24:55 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: river rat

Then the boot must always be on their throat. The alternative is not acceptable..


11 posted on 03/16/2007 7:26:30 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gonna be a whole lotta "'spicious Moslems" flyin, I'd wager.

Every damn one of them!


12 posted on 03/16/2007 9:58:24 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Mikey_1962

If I was concerned I would risk getting sued.


13 posted on 03/16/2007 10:00:55 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: river rat
Someone once said ",,,,the Arabs always are either under your heel or at your throat."

It appears he knew what he was talking about.

Amen! I would love to know who to credit that quote to. I would use it for a tag line for the duration.

14 posted on 03/16/2007 10:03:14 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I will NEVER fly any airline again in my life.

It just isn't worth it. Don't report suspicious activity, die. Report suspicious activity, get sued. Put up with disgusting searches (I'm an elderly granny) because profiling is not PC.

What a steaming pile. Americans can grow some stones and stand up to these whiny, bullying ME brats, or just knuckle under and give the freaking country up. I swear, it's already being nibbled to death by freaking ME lawsuit after freaking ME lawsuit.

Congress has no stones. Judges have no stones.

Any terror incident that takes place in the US, like Breslan, for instance, with some of these suspicious "foreign nationals" driving our schoolbuses, etc.--I have a feeling that won't take place until they feel we're softened up enough...they sure do count on Americans obeying the law. So they're taking over "the law."


15 posted on 03/16/2007 10:07:23 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Texas Mom; river rat
",,,,the Arabs always are either under your heel or at your throat."

It was Winston Churchill.

16 posted on 03/16/2007 10:09:31 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Follow this and its aftereffects carefully. It will be a perfect illustration of how PC KILLS.


17 posted on 03/17/2007 3:12:07 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
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To: Texas Mom

this says a British general said it http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:vg0ExoIZMhQJ:www.eclipsoid.com/bridges/essay.html+the+Arabs+always+are+either+under+your+heel+or+at+your+throat.%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us


18 posted on 03/17/2007 4:50:21 AM PDT by Heavy Fuel
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To: Texas Mom; river rat; HappyGirl

[... Arabs always are either under your heel or at your throat...]

You can credit God for that idiom.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and
her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15)


19 posted on 03/24/2007 7:50:04 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This begs the question: Why not freep the law firm that's representing these imams in their suit, and publicize their connections? Get them on the defensive!


20 posted on 03/24/2007 7:55:57 PM PDT by coydog (Free Melissa Busekros!)
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