Posted on 03/22/2007 11:28:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
...We constantly present the false impression that government can solve problems that government in America was designed not to solve. Families are significantly less important in the development of children today than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Religion has less influence than it did 30 or 40 years ago. Communities don't mean what they meant 30 or 40 years ago.
As Americans, we're not sure we share values. We're sometimes even afraid to use the word values. We talk about teaching ethics in schools -- people say, "What ethics? Whose ethics? Maybe we can't." And they confuse that with teaching of religion. And we are afraid to reaffirm the basics upon which a lawful and a decent society are based. We're almost embarrassed by it.
.... What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
... The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government.
... They are going to have to be just as solid and just as strong in teaching every single youngster their responsibility for citizenship. We're going to find the answer when schools once again train citizens. Schools exist in America and have always existed to train responsible citizens of the United States of America.
If they don't do that, it's very hard to hold us together as a country, because it's shared values that hold us together.
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LOL, as if the pro-Rudy stance wasn't a dead give-away. Only liberals could support someone as pro-baby murder, pro-gay, and anti-constitution as Rudy Giuliani.
Well said, Rudy!
I read the post. I find Giulinai's actions reprehensible, but the description was accurate. I find nothing wrong with it.
I don't appreciate your personal attacks, either.
As an American I find that comment offensive
"RUDY DEMANDS YOU WORSHIP THE STATE"
Your round robin posting is like a cluster ----!
Do you condone this?
I've been polite until this thread.
I guess the idea is to run off all who dare to disagree.
Is this Free Republic?
It's not the one I joined so many years ago.
I guess it comes down to the question of; "Do you want a small glass of water or will you hold out till you can get a big one?"
Do you want to live to fight another day or do you want to die?
Do you want the conservative agenda to move forward (and yes, possibly not move at all) or do you want Hillary or Saddam moving us backward, giving in on the WOT and abandoning the state of Israel?
Which freedoms and liberties are you talking about? There are some "freedoms" most of the posters on this site don't support (e.g., abortions) and others we cherish (e.g., the 1st and 2nd Amendments).
Frankly, we won't have to worry about the gun grabbers much after the SCOTUS rules on the 2nd District case re: gun bans. We have to worry about the socialists (e.g., taking away the freedom to make a living) and the professional politicians like McCain and his Dem friends who would like to take away our freedom to criticize politicians.
ROFLMAO! You just gave Politicalmom grief for language, and you post that thinly veiled expletive? Hypocrite!
No KIDDING!
I didn't even use any profanity. Notice how it is MY telling the truth that is condemned, not Giulian's immorality?
"Do you want the conservative agenda to move forward (and yes, possibly not move at all) or do you want Hillary or Saddam moving us backward,"
First, saddam is dead.
Second, Rudy would not move the conservative agenda forward. Quite the contrary - other than the WOT, there isn't much about him that advances a conservative agenda. There would be much more of a liberal agenda advanced than a conservative one.
I'll agree with you there. You have NOT been polite on this thread. Another Rudytooter coming unhinged. I shouldn't say "coming" unhinged. Supporting rudy and abortion is a sure indicator of diminished capacity. And to think, I used to have such respect for you, and looked forward to reading your early morning postings.
EXACTLY! They can't handle the truth!
You're criticizing MY language? Just because you don't use the actual word doesn't mean you aren't using a vulgarity. I would
NEVER use such a term.
"Are these posters here to disrupt party unity?"
I suggest you look at Jim Robinson's posts about rudy and then reconsider the "party unity" approach.
The biggest threat to party unity is coming from a liberal republican from new york. Pushing him to lead the GOP will do more to destroy the party than anything the democrats could ever do.
Your posts and mine are out there.
Let others judge.
I've had postings with Jim Robinson.
You are another matter.
You are a detriment to this forum.
Rudy just might lose and lose bad. There are a lot of "South Park" types out there who may just turn out to vote against him.
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