Posted on 03/22/2007 4:24:28 PM PDT by pissant
A top leader in the Southern Baptist Convention predicted that former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani would not succeed in winning the votes of Southern Baptists if he were to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008.
In brief comments after a chapel service at the North Carolina legislature on Wednesday, Richard Land, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich would likely fail for the same reason.
"Three is one marriage too many for them," said Land, referring to the 16.4 million members of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant group. Both Giuliani and Gingrich have been married three times.
A friend and adviser to President Bush, Land keeps close watch on politics as head of the commission, which studies moral, social, and religious liberty issues for the convention.
Though Southern Baptists are independent and do not necessarily follow his counsel, Land said three others who have already entered the presidential fray were more likely to win support among Southern Baptists. Those three are Sam Brownback, a Republican Senator from Kansas, Michael Huckabee, the former Republican governor of Arkansas, and Duncan Hunter, Republican Congressman from California.
As for Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, who is a Mormon, Land didn't rule him out. But, he said, the Republican hopeful has to convince the American people that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints won't dictate his policy. Land said he met with Romney recently and told him: "That's not a hill that can't be climbed. But you're going to have to climb it."
Finally, Land said he sensed that U.S. Senator John McCain was perceived as a wild card.
"People are uncomfortable with his predictability," said Land. "They tell me, 'We don't know how he's going to come down on the issues.'"
Isn't that a Rodney King quote?
Oh i know that. I was asking if he reflected the values of the leadership of his niche when he went to a male hooker for massages, and 'fun.'
Rush isn't running for president. Besides, I'm not defending the rationalization of the baptists. They can vote how they see fit. I'm just bringing the news to ya'll.
LOL. Was Faggard a baptist?
No. Frankly, I've been very pleasantly surprised at the leadership's handling of Haggard's discipline.
No, we should convince them we are right. If we fail, we lose, and compromise more with what they want.
Yeah, demonstrating quite publicly that you are committing adultery is funny that way.
Did I say I agreed with the baptists rationale. My ratioanle for not supporting Rudy is that he's a liberal. I don't care if he has a harem.
We should not be held hostage to what we believe in -- or something like that.
Hopefully voters will think for themselves, not have some self righteous pomposity tell them how to think.
You heard it from "gesully"...Get over it...the unborn don't matter as long as RUDY wins!!!
I'm sure King George would agree with you.
All I know is he thought homosexuality was a grave sin, but liked getting nude with a hunky guy now and then. Well, there you go.
The Church says he is NOT a Catholic. Any Catholic who supports abortion has excommunicated himself. I don't remember the proper term, as I am not Catholic.
I don't know why you pulled the $7000 number out to post, when the article clearly ALSO states:
"Between 1992 and 1997, Audre employees and family members donated $77,000 to members of Congress.Rep. Duncan Hunter"
It is clear to me that Hunter is the typical politico; accepting contributions of large proportions, through various screened contributors to funnel them, and rewarding specific donrs with millions in contracts.
I don't know where Fred Thompson has done the same....
..no, not that it really matters--a lousy hypocrite can be any flavor
He pastored what appears to be an independent Charismatic church in Colorado Springs, which, doctrinally, seems fairly sound
But Haggard wasn't
Me too.
All I know is he thought homosexuality was a grave sin, but liked getting nude with a hunky guy now and then. Well, there you go.
Quit jumping to conclusions! Just because he liked having sex with other men doesn't make him gay!
No...I just get tired of trashing people. Once they are exposed, that's it. No need to drag their bodies thru the streets.
I, personally believe the Rudy and McCain have been force-fed to us by the media and either one could easily turn on us in a "New York Minute". Either one could very easily be a liberal "mole" in our midst....not a pleasant thought but I can't dismiss it.
What is needed is positive effort and support for the "good guys", whomever you perceive them to be.
A little campaign help for them would be a hundred-fold more effective than trashing the "other guys" on this forum.
Those are NOT all votes on ILLEGAL immigration. Many are on LEGAL immigration.
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