Store manager pulls gun on robbers, faces charges (CT)

WTNH Television ^ | 3/23/07 | Puppage

[caver]

You make that police work sound easy.

[NewJerseyJoe]

Does Connecticut have a group analogous to Virgnia's VCDL?

If not, I'm wondering.... maybe, from now on, the members of every gun group -- NRA, GOA, 2AF, state groups, local groups, etc. -- should BOMBARD the politicians/police/etc. of ANY town where this kind of nonsense happens.

Maybe when they realize they're going to get half a million letters delivered to their office EVERY time this happens, plus all kinds of unwanted national publicity, they might think twice about pulling this kind of crap.

[wrench]

I doubt the law will support his actions.

Deadly force is not justified in the eyes of the law in most states to prevent property crime. As per the article, the manager wasn't trapped or confronted, he persued the thieves, while displaying a weapon.

If one decides to arm themselves for their defence, it is their responsibility to know the laws covering the use of deadly force.

If you feel deadly force is justified to defend your stuff, work to change local laws (good job, Texas) or take your chances in court.

[KosmicKitty]

I would hate to be in front of a jury of my peers in this state trying to defend myself. Seems like the criminals get the benefit of the doubt.

[Jack of all Trades]

In front of a jury is a bad place to be in any event.

Personally, I don't think the guy should have been arrested.

[Dick Vomer]

the people of Conn. are pussies, the cops are pussies and the DA is chief vagina.

I doubt they have a stand up toilet anywhere in the state.

This 60- something year old man is being charged by the donut chompers cause they are too lazy, stupid, incompetent or corrupt to do their jobs.

writing tickets, looking tough, getting to do a no-knock drug bust on granny, maybe even getting to pretend their special-operators by wearing the black balaclavas and carrying full auto H-K's ..is what these LEO's are doing.

How 'bout just packing it in and moving out. The rich will have security guards while the hoi-poloi get to be subservient to the criminals and the supposed legal authority.

the chances of me living north of the Red River=0

my wife is begging to do some shopping and see some shows in New York, I told her to go with her friends cause unless it's on business there ain't sh#t up north that I've got to see that we don't have in Texas, or I can't live without.

[Dick Vomer]

He told us that if we ever shoot a thief on our lawn, be sure to drag him inside the house before the police arrive so as to ensure best treatment from the law. Maybe your concealed carry guy was just telling you the same thing in not quite as direct sort of way.

...sounds nice but urban legend.... the cops or better yet forensics will be able to tell what happened with scene reconstruction.... and if they find something that isn't on the up and up, then you will be screwed, cause then it looks like your hiding something....

just kill the bastards and tell them that you were afraid they were going to kill you or were coming back to kill you, etc...

[USS Alaska]

I don't know. From the scant facts in the article, it doesn't seem like the guy was justified in pulling it out.

He pulled it out?

[Dead Corpse]

"There's a line you can not cross when you're running through the parking lot chasing after a suspect brandishing a gun," Sgt. Christopher Cross said.

Shut the hell up and down your job Barney... You've got the wrong guy in jail.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

"We knew who they were, what their license plate was because they've been hitting all our stores."

And the police still can't find them. But their victim has already been arrested and charged.

[Dead Corpse]

Texas just sent our very own Castle Doctrine law to the Governors desk yesterday. No "duty to retreat", Civil suit protection, and a few other tasty bits tossed in to make things even more hazardous for bad guys.

This oughta cut down on court costs dramatically. Might make the coroners job a bit tougher though...

[savedbygrace]

Scared the heck out of the women in the area. Some of the men, too.

[FatherofFive]

The once-revolutionary Northeast states have become a disgrace to their historic roots.

So very sad but true. This is one reason I lfet the Northeast and became a "Southerner"

[Jack of all Trades]

So killing someone who steals from you is a matter of honor then?

[Atlas Sneezed]

"The truck was backfiring like crazy, so if there were shots I didn't hear anything like that. I heard backfiring a lot," Tracey Wilkerson of East Hartford said.

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This is one fine citizen, doing all he can to aid a good man!

[kdr3]

Castle Doctrine And Self-Defense (Connecticut)

[Jack of all Trades]

That's pretty concise.

Has this "duty to retreat" been added within the past ten years? My recollection was that it was not a requirement when I got my permit.

[THEUPMAN]

Generators aren't cheap,


About 300 dollars around here. Of course it goes up from there....

I stand by my comment .
Deadly force to protect himself and those in the situation ... but not just to prevent a generator from running away.

I think he handled the situation perfectly.

His use of force was escalated appropriately.
His gun at the ready in case the bad guy escalated it further.
His choice not to execute the guy for running off with a 300$ (could have been more , but they get heaver as the get more expensive) generator was correct.
They have the bad guys tag and info , they'll get him.