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CALIFORNIA: Judge rules state must stop running water pumps
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/23/7

Posted on 03/23/2007 12:56:48 PM PDT by SmithL

Officials must first get permission to kill protected wildlife -

The state must stop running the giant pumps that send water to Southern California unless wildlife officials approve the continued killing of protected salmon and Delta smelt, a judge ruled today.

The decision by Judge Frank Roesch of Alameda County Superior Court gives the state Department of Water Resources 60 days to get the necessary permission from wildlife officials. Granting permission could, in turn, require massive efforts to increase salmon and smelt populations elsewhere.

Many environmentalists blame the exporting of Northern California water for causing sharp declines in the number of some fish species in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta. The pumps operated by the state are located near Tracy and send water to the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: activistjudge; animalrights; environment; esa; nowaterforyou; water
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To: Domicile of Doom
These idiots do realize they are hastening their own demise, don't they?

The environmental wack jobs that pursue these lawsuits pretty much appear to be anti-human. They consider their own race to be a plague on the earth.

41 posted on 03/23/2007 2:18:21 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: John123

secede?


42 posted on 03/23/2007 2:19:18 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Doohickey

Fair enough....I haven't much sympathy for people who build a city on a hill in Earthquake territory...let them pay their own reconstruction bills after the next major shaker...

I haven't much sympathy for people who have property around the river delta...let them pay ALL the money to rebuild the levy system....

I haven't much sympathy for...(fill in your own instance of Northern Cal leaching tax dollars from Southern Cal)...


43 posted on 03/23/2007 2:20:59 PM PDT by rottndog (If you don't believe in the abolition of government run schools, your views aren't radical enough.)
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To: John123
The environmentalists are trying to squash a desalinization plant in Oceanside because it will harm the salt water fishies.
44 posted on 03/23/2007 2:21:11 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: The Blitherer
Um...so what am I supposed to drink? Ocean water?

I suspect that if Southern California is suddenly deprived of water, that this judge may find himself drinking some ocean water.

From a tugboat, on the river going slow
A cement bag is dropping on down
You know that cement is for the weight dear
You can make a large bet Mackie's back in town 

45 posted on 03/23/2007 2:23:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: rottndog
Fine you keep your tax dollars, we'll keep our water.

We'll see who cries uncle first.

46 posted on 03/23/2007 2:24:19 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale

Um...we live next to an ocean....desalinization is the wave of the future....

You can't pull money out of the ocean though, and the Northern California Socialist's toilet will dry up and die very quickly without subsidies from the south....

Sounds like a deal to me---YOU'RE ON!


47 posted on 03/23/2007 2:28:16 PM PDT by rottndog (If you don't believe in the abolition of government run schools, your views aren't radical enough.)
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To: rottndog
Right. Where are you going to get the power to run the desalination plants? Mexico? I know you S. Cal libs will just vote it in and not worry about details.

Northern California has a perfectly fine tax base thanks. We'll continue to do great.

What percent subsidy do your statistics say S. Cal supports the north? .001% or so? What % of S. Cals water comes from the good parts of the state? 50% or so?

48 posted on 03/23/2007 2:35:54 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Dear Abby" said that once in defense of abortion vs. protecting the whales (or some such species). Really!


49 posted on 03/23/2007 3:11:47 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: GOP_1900AD
STOP IT! Too much common sense is dangerous to a liberal's health and endangers their very existence.
50 posted on 03/23/2007 3:20:15 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: The Blitherer
Um...so what am I supposed to drink? Ocean water?

Um, no, it's called the Colorado River...

They should have built the Peripheral Canal years ago.

Taking water from Northern California and sending it south.

Instead, we pump it out of the delta.

First big earthquake, and the delta is going to turn to milkshake from collapsed levees..

51 posted on 03/23/2007 3:25:40 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Dinsdale

Farming? There's farming in the Central Valley??? Where's that?

(Just joking, I live in Sanger. But So Cal and No Cal don't want to acknowledge the source of common sense in the state. When I told my colleagues in Orange County I was moving to Fresno, they said, "Where's that? By the Bay Area?")


52 posted on 03/23/2007 3:25:44 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
They should have built the Peripheral Canal years ago.

There is no way on earth that will happen.

Northern Cal has been paying attention to what LA does to its water sources.

Summer water here is all spoken for. No more for LA.

If they want more water they will just have to pump it during the winter and find a place to store it.

53 posted on 03/23/2007 3:30:27 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: SmithL

There may not be an appreciation of the "salmon people." To them, there is nothing more important than salmon - not humans, communities, electricity, farms, lumber or minerals. I live in a county where what is left of the economy is based on agriculture, tourism and timber (plywood.) There is little other industry except for water bottling plants. You would think I was evil incarnate if I dared utter that to our county, salmon is a secondary concern. The Water Quality Board can't even grasp why we would want to expend our very limited Road Dept. money on public safety where people actually live than out on some landslide or erosive bank in a salmon channel in the hinterlands. Salmon people have no perspective or awareness that there could be other priorities. It's nuts.


55 posted on 03/23/2007 4:05:50 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Dinsdale
It takes a lot of energy to desalinate water.

We may finally be reaching the critical point in our history where the environmentalits' opposition to nuclear power can finally be seen as counterproductive. The left in this country mindlessly oppose just about everything, like nuclear power, wind power, hydropower, offshore drilling, drilling in ANWR, fighting wars for oil, big business, farming, fishing, freeways, you name it, liberals are against it.

Yet, they drive their Volvos to the Starbucks Drivethrough for a cup of coffee, letting the engine run the whole time, then drive to the gas station and buy gas from Saudi Arabia, and water their lawns with water piped from the river they didn't want to build a dam on. When the water gets cut off, and they can't water their lawn, and they have to pay a Fresh Water Surcharge at Starbucks, and the price of bottled water goes through the roof, maybe those in the middle that the libs depend on for their voting power will see that liberals are big babies, and they are holding us back.

56 posted on 03/23/2007 4:39:35 PM PDT by webheart
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To: BigTex5
Exactly!! Even those of us that live on lakes are heavily restricted in Texas. I'm not sure people realize how serious this is. It will pass, as it did in the 1930's. But it will take time.
57 posted on 03/23/2007 5:30:37 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Dinsdale
It takes a lot of energy to desalinate water.
You trade oil (or gas or coal) for fresh water.


I'm still not sure I get your point. What I said before was tongue in cheek. I believe that most environmentalist are more interested in harming Capitalism than saving the earth. Does that help?
58 posted on 03/23/2007 6:02:13 PM PDT by Jaysun (I took one look at her unfashionable eyebrows and thought to myself, "she's literally crazy.")
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To: Francis McClobber
The environmentalists are trying to squash a desalinization plant in Oceanside because it will harm the salt water fishies.

Oh great. Damn if you do and damn if you don't...

59 posted on 03/23/2007 6:52:10 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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To: SmithL
secede?

WHAT ever! :)

60 posted on 03/23/2007 6:53:22 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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