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Considering that our open borders policy is bringing us higher taxes and urban anarchy (25% of L.A. prison inmates are illegal aliens), bankrupt public school districts, insolvent hospitals (forced to curtail public emergency medical services), record profits for the drug cartel, and a national security danger in an age of international terrorism, should we really be surprised that more and more of our towns and cities are becoming like Baghdad? Welcome to the new multicultural and Balkanized America. And it's no longer just border states. The rot has spread to suburban and even rural areas throughout the entire nation. What's going on in the small town of Hazleton,PA (population 30,000)is not unusual.
1 posted on 03/23/2007 6:58:53 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I wonder how, "Whitey" gets blamed in this?


2 posted on 03/23/2007 7:01:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: T.L.Sink

"we are headed for a major racial conflict"

How exciting is this


3 posted on 03/23/2007 7:04:29 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: T.L.Sink

One word... gangs.


10 posted on 03/23/2007 7:24:42 PM PDT by BigFinn (Congress: All pork, no bacon and full of beans.)
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To: T.L.Sink

I'd venture a guess that blacks kill more blacks than any other group of people. (Hope that was stated as PC as possible. If not, too bad) ;)


11 posted on 03/23/2007 7:25:44 PM PDT by Chena ("Bush Bashing" not welcomed here.)
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"Latinos are killing blacks to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling."

And so it begins...

15 posted on 03/23/2007 8:01:57 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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At least the Mexicans in my area show up for work on time. (Ducking).

BTW: Be careful when you start spouting statistics about race and imprisonment. Guess what race of people constitutes the majority of inmates in the New Jersey penal system?

18 posted on 03/23/2007 8:30:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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The rate at which black men are incarcerated is astonishing. There are 4,630 black men in prison nationwide per 100,000 black men in the population, whereas the rate for white men is 482.28 In ten states and the District of Columbia, black men are incarcerated at staggeringly high rates that range from 5,740 to 7,859 per 100,000. In contrast, the range among the ten states with the highest rates of white male incarceration is 620 to 1,151. The highest rate of white male incarceration (1,151) is lower than the lowest rate of black male incarceration (1,195). According to Department of Justice calculations, if current rates of incarceration remain unchanged, 28.5 percent of black men will be confined in prison at least once during their lifetime, a figure six times greater than that for white men.29

Because of their extraordinary rate of incarceration, one in every 20 black men over the age of 18 is in a state or federal prison, compared to one in every 180 whites. In certain states, the incarceration of black men reaches devastating levels: in Oklahoma and Iowa one in every thirteen black men is in state prison; in Rhode Island, Texas and Wisconsin, the figure is one in every fourteen (Table 6).

19 posted on 03/23/2007 8:35:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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Many African Americans are especially perplexed because they remember that when we had the numerical advantage, African Americans did not target Latinos for murder to rid them from our neighborhoods. It would have been unthinkable.

B.S. - there have been tensions and incidents like this for decades. Blacks are just losing the numbers game now, so all of a sudden it's a crisis.

22 posted on 03/23/2007 8:38:44 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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Any thinking person who watches the LA News reports could see this has been coming for several years and it will result in all-out anarchy/rioting sooner or later... the tension is too palpable between both sides.


23 posted on 03/23/2007 8:40:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: T.L.Sink

BTW: We in the northeast saw most of our cities go from liveable to sh-t in the 1950s and 60s, and this was LONG before the first illegal showed up.


25 posted on 03/23/2007 8:40:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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mexican-black relations were really a subtext of the l.a. riots of 1992. mexicans were moving into tradition black strongholds. after the riots blacks moved into antelope valley, moreno valley, and further to the south end of los angeles county, i.e. long beach.

the result is today that blacks no longer have the political clout in los angeles that they used to have. that's the key issue.

on april 29 4 police were acquitted of charges in beating rodney king. the riot started.

also, blacks were at war with koreans before the riots, killing koreans in liquor stores and convenience stores that they owned. and, killing koreans, for example, on freeway off ramps at red lights--pull up, shoot, and as the light goes green, get back on the freeway. koreans armed themselves and started shooting blacks, and the black-on-korean violence pretty much stopped.

the media focused on black-white issues.


27 posted on 03/23/2007 8:55:59 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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Pictures of top 10 murderers most wanted in Washington DC.There are no inner city american blacks in the line up.

Pictures of top 10 most wanted murderers in LA Up until several weeks ago when the LA Times ran articles on the rising crime wave--these pictures included the nationality of the murders. All but one were foreign nationals and mostly they were mexican.
30 posted on 03/23/2007 9:10:38 PM PDT by ckilmer
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Why are Latinos committing violent crimes targeted against African Americans?

Because African-Americans are not La Raza!

34 posted on 03/23/2007 9:16:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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Clearly, African Americans are committing violent crimes against Latinos as well, but there is little evidence that those crimes are based on race as much as they are for control of turf.

There is an old joke that ends with the punchline "it says a black man can't vote in Mississippi." If these turf wars aren't racial they'll do until racial comes along. The truth is all these street gangs are little racial militias, and black street gangs have targeted Latinos for racial reasons. (I won't mention the racial targeting of whites or ask if the individual who wrote this ever spoke out against it.)

All this brings up the musical question: why are there no white street gangs worthy of the name? There are various reasons but one of the biggest is that they wouldn't be tolerated. Street gangs, as I've said, are by their nature little racial militias defending their territory (usually with the tacit support of the communities they live in), that sort of behavior from whites isn't tolerated by the establishment. We've seen what they do in response to that situation: send in the FBI and if necessary the 101st Airborne. They do tolerate it among blacks and Latinos, though, certainly when it was aimed at whites, and somewhere in there is a message about the system and its goals. And now that they've got the racial militias they've helped to build and sustain targeting each other they're starting to wring their hands. Doesn't bode well for multiculturalism and the Black Victim Industry they base much of their power on. Guilt trips over slavery aren't going to work in New America.

38 posted on 03/23/2007 9:19:34 PM PDT by jordan8
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CWII ping?

This is an interesting angle.


45 posted on 03/23/2007 9:26:11 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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I consider it an Americans vs. illegal immigrant problem. The Americans in this case happen to be black, so now it's a problem for the race pimps.


47 posted on 03/23/2007 9:28:52 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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I suspect that if these hate crimes were being committed by the KKK against Latinos or African Americans, both communities would come together and condemn the violence as racist. Why not now?

Because only whites can be racist.

48 posted on 03/23/2007 9:29:10 PM PDT by Razz Barry (,i)
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According to the Census figures, in 1990 there were 2.4 million Mexican-born residents of California. In 2000 the figure was 3.9 million Mexican-born residents. The foreign born population of California in 2000 was 8.8 million [out of a total population of 33.8 million], which means one out of every four residents of California is foreign born.

In 2000, there were 11 million Hispanics/Latinos in California or one in every three residents. There were 2.2 million African-Americans.

In 2000 LA had a population of 3.7 million, with 1.8 million being Hispanic/Latino of any race. There were 369 thousand African Americans. 1.5 million residents of LA are foreign-born or about 40% of the population. And 2 million speak a language other than English at home.

Is LA an American city?

51 posted on 03/23/2007 9:34:09 PM PDT by kabar
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Three Los Angeles members of a Latino gang known as the Avenues were convicted and sentenced to life in prison in November for hate crime violations, including killing African Americans in an effort to run them out of predominantly Latino neighborhoods.

Clearly, African Americans are committing violent crimes against Latinos as well, but there is little evidence that those crimes are based on race as much as they are for control of turf. And the notion that Latinos are killing blacks in an effort to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling.

So blacks killing hispanics for land is just turf fighting but hispanics killing blacks for land is ethnic cleansing?! We may have just found the a winner for the most hypocritical statement of the year!!!

58 posted on 03/23/2007 9:41:40 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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"According to The Times, police statistics show that from 1994 to 2005, there were nearly five times as many homicides, assaults and other violent crimes committed by Latinos against African Americans in Harbor Gateway as by African Americans against Latinos.

One example of how out of control race relations have been in Harbor Gateway is the case of the 19-year-old African American man with no known gang affiliation who was killed by a Latino member of the 204th Street gang because the gang member was upset that an African American had defeated a Latino in a boxing match.

Three Los Angeles members of a Latino gang known as the Avenues were convicted and sentenced to life in prison in November for hate crime violations, including killing African Americans in an effort to run them out of predominantly Latino neighborhoods.

This escalating violence between Latinos and African Americans defies logic in so many ways. The two racial groups have had many similar struggles in Southern California and have coalesced around issues such as affirmative action, livable wages, justice for janitors and police misconduct.

Clearly, African Americans are committing violent crimes against Latinos as well, but there is little evidence that those crimes are based on race as much as they are for control of turf. And the notion that Latinos are killing blacks in an effort to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling. Many African Americans are especially perplexed because they remember that when we had the numerical advantage, African Americans did not target Latinos for murder to rid them from our neighborhoods. It would have been unthinkable. "

Those Crips and Bloods better get together with the remaining willing white community in a matter of common defense. I told people 2 years ago that this will be the end result. Baghdad had a carnival with rides for kids yesterday. L.A. is a war zone today. A Sheriff's deputy told me there are places in L.A. that require an APC with a 20mm machine gun to patrol around.

If you want to watch a train wreck in progress, just watch this one evolve in real time for your pleasure.

59 posted on 03/23/2007 9:46:43 PM PDT by BobS
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