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The Gathering Storm Against Giuliani (Known Pro-Life Activists vow to oppose him in the GENERAL)
CBN ^ | 3-28-07 | David Brody

Posted on 03/28/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by TitansAFC

Here's a heads up for the Giuliani campaign. It's coming. It's coming very soon. Beware. Run for your lives! As I write this, there is plotting going among grassroots religious conservatives in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and many other states. They want to take down Rudy and they plan to do everything in their power to do it. I received this email from an influential Republican activist who, lets just say, has an extensive mailing list among the conservative grassroots network. Here's what he told me:

"If Rudy Giuliani is put up for President by the Stupid Party, I will work 40 hours a week as a volunteer to destroy his candidacy for President; that is how important the prolife position -- and other social issues-- is to many people of faith. Sure, the Evil Party might get control of the White House again, and the Stupid Party might therefore go the way of the Whig Party in the early 1800's, but so be it. The Republican Party must NEVER nominate a pro-abortion candidate. That would be far worse than the Republican Party putting up a pro-slavery candidate in the mid-1800's. That is how strong many of us feel David. Many of us will also be putting in 40 hours a week during the primary/caucus season to defeat Giuliani at all costs."

Tough words. Don't think for a second that these activists aren't serious. They are. They know Rudy is getting some traction from social conservatives and they are not going to take for granted that Giuliani will fade once his views are known. As these activists galvanize, they could star in a movie.


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To: The South Texan

Using the term "All or Nothings" to describe people who are opposed to a candidate who is a credible conservative on no more than 20-25% of the issues is one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen here on this site.


21 posted on 03/28/2007 8:33:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: TitansAFC

....but there's "victory" in having Hillary running things for 8 years? Making Supreme nominations for 8 years? Go ahead oppose the GOP candidate and see how things are in 2016.

I will push for and support whatever Republican candidate I will in the primaries......but I'll never attempt to help Hillary into the big House by opposing the GOP nominee in the general, whoever it will be.

Even if it's Rudy.
Even if it's McCain.
Even if it's Romney.

....or any of the other "maybe"/"might be"/"thinkin' about it" candidates.


22 posted on 03/28/2007 8:36:36 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: TitansAFC

....but there's "victory" in having Hillary running things for 8 years? Making Supreme nominations for 8 years? Go ahead oppose the GOP candidate and see how things are in 2016.

I will push for and support whatever Republican candidate I will in the primaries......but I'll never attempt to help Hillary into the big House by opposing the GOP nominee in the general, whoever it will be.

Even if it's Rudy.
Even if it's McCain.
Even if it's Romney.

....or any of the other "maybe"/"might be"/"thinkin' about it" candidates.


23 posted on 03/28/2007 8:36:52 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: dmw
Not voting for Rudy or Romney in any election.

I could vote for McCain though. Only partly because crazy people are fun.

24 posted on 03/28/2007 8:37:31 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Alberta's Child
And if anyone here thinks the statements you see there at the top of this thread are harsh, just remember that gun rights advocates are even MORE zealous over their major issue than the pro-life folks are.
 
Rudy's big problem is not that he is too liberal on a few issues but that he is unapologetically liberal on the 3 issues that are most likely to have hardcore single issue voters, life, guns, and gay rights. He is a charismatic and attractive candidate who may pull a lot of moderates and Democrats in the NE and Rust Belt  but it may not be enough to make up for what he loses in key states like Arkansas, Missouri or New Mexico.

 

25 posted on 03/28/2007 8:37:56 AM PDT by azcap
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To: ElectricStrawberry

---"...but there's "victory" in having Hillary running things for 8 years? Making Supreme nominations for 8 years? Go ahead oppose the GOP candidate and see how things are in 2016..."---

What country do you live in where Presidents serve eight year terms?

Rudy's Supreme Court nominees, by the way, would be no better for Social Conservatives. anyone suggesting otherwise is full of crap.


26 posted on 03/28/2007 8:40:10 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

---"...but there's "victory" in having Hillary running things for 8 years? Making Supreme nominations for 8 years? Go ahead oppose the GOP candidate and see how things are in 2016..."---

What country do you live in where Presidents serve eight year terms?

Rudy's Supreme Court nominees, by the way, would be no better for Social Conservatives. anyone suggesting otherwise is full of crap.


27 posted on 03/28/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: rom
Not that I'm a huge Rudy fan or anything, but you'd rather have "Evil" (as admitted to by this email) run the country than "Stupid"?

The reason Democrats/progressives are classified "Evil" is they are activists, who want to do things - even if not actually laid down as "things to be done" in the Consitution.

And as his critics and supporters have pointed out, Hizzoner is exactly that kind of go-getter who gets things done, by whatever means necessary.

28 posted on 03/28/2007 8:41:19 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Being a political pundit is so easy anyone can do it, And does)
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To: TitansAFC

Pro-lifers should check-out his web site where Turdiano reaffirms his worship of abortion: "Rudy Giuliani .....believes that (abortion) is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family, and her God".

This liberal dumbo reiterates his obeisance to abortion-on-demand. Rudeo is still on his knees, puckered up to his abortion-on-demand cronies.


29 posted on 03/28/2007 8:43:02 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: TitansAFC
The Forbes endorsement ends the discussion. Rudy is in.
30 posted on 03/28/2007 9:17:02 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: TitansAFC

"I sure am. I'd much rather lose than have Rudy win. I know that I am not alone."

Rudy would destroy the GOP more than any democrat ever could.


31 posted on 03/28/2007 9:26:39 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Your logic is one of the most idiotic things I have seen on this site.


32 posted on 03/28/2007 9:26:41 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: TitansAFC

I don't think these people have the juice to stop Rudy.


33 posted on 03/28/2007 9:28:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (But that's why they play the games)
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To: Parley Baer

What "logic" are you talking about?


34 posted on 03/28/2007 9:28:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: TitansAFC
If Rudy Giuliani is put up for President by the Stupid Party, I will work 40 hours a week as a volunteer to destroy his candidacy for President; that is how important the prolife position -- and other social issues-- is to many people of faith.

As will I. Millions will go from enthusiastic Republican voters to working against its nominee if Giuliani wins the nomination.

35 posted on 03/28/2007 9:28:59 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: rom; EternalVigilance

I'll quote Eternal in response to you: "The alternative is for America to be stuck with two evil parties, and no conservative party."


36 posted on 03/28/2007 9:31:01 AM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: TitansAFC

What country do YOU live in where "victory" includes helping the opposing candidate win......and if you think a Hillary Presidency won't be for 8 years.....you really ARE in another country.

Yeah yeah...everyone other than you is full of crap.....


37 posted on 03/28/2007 9:34:58 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: TitansAFC

wow wee..gathering storm huh?


38 posted on 03/28/2007 9:36:10 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: rom

What? Just because someone puts an 'R' after their name it does not make them immune to doing evil. It might just change how much you are willing to accept. Rudy is far enough to the left on issues which count (guns, abortion, no gay 'marriage') that he might as well run as a Democrat.


39 posted on 03/28/2007 9:42:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: dmw
Inside the party they know that a social conservative cannot win this year. The stars have realigned, and that is that

I did not say I liked it. I said it was so. Given the front-loading of the primaries, and all the structural changes that favor a moneyed candidate versus a grass-roots candidate, do you dent that this is so?

You may or may not decide the leave the party because you feel the party has passed conservatives by. That is up to you. I can't say that I would blame you if you bolt. I have considered myself several times in the past. But I just believe that with western civilization in the crosshairs of Islam, I cannot take actions that are going to help Hitlery and the defeatists.

Please don't kill mey. I am just the mesenger.

40 posted on 03/28/2007 9:49:11 AM PDT by massadvj
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