Skip to comments.The Last Confessions of E Howard Hunt
Posted on 03/28/2007 11:29:12 AM PDT by meg88
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What a great story. I don't believe a word of it.
Watch the Zapruder film and the photos of LBJ (it is hard to when you are so focused on JFK)
The zapruder film proves the head shot came from the front (I went to college ror Physics- no one can tell me different)
I stopped at "Rolling Stone".
Even if it's true, why would LBJ want that ? Not just power lust, has to be more.
He says this like it's a bad thing...
I went a little further than that.
I stopped at "murder of Che Guevara"
Maybe you are referring to the photo of Speaker of the House Carl Albert winking at LBJ (who is smiling at Albert) as LBJ is being sworn in as President aboard Air Force One? Jackie is in the photo, too, of course. She's not as happy as LBJ.
Also, if you have seen the photo of the Three Tramps, you will notice the similarity between Hunt and one of the Three Tramps. But actually, the article implies Hunt was grateful to not be "directly involved," even though he was (according to Saint) in Dallas that day and appeared to be one of the Three Tramps. Kind of an inconsistency, I guess.
Loved this article. Very interesting.
I've long suspected LBJ might have been involved. He was ruthless and unscrupulous, like the Klintoons.
Something more? How about to avoid going to prison with Bobby Baker? How about his connections to Mac Wallace and some murders? Those are a couple of my guesses.
Lucien Sarti (born Corsica, died April 27, 1972 in Mexico City) was a drug trafficker and killer-for-hire involved in the infamous French Connection heroin network. He was named on the television series The Men Who Killed Kennedy as one of the men who shot U.S. President John F. Kennedy. The series aimed to critically analyse the evidence in the assassination and attacked the official government conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone in killing Kennedy. In one of the late episodes of the series, aired in 2003 on The History Channel, French prisoner Christian David named Sarti as one of three French criminals hired to carry out the assassination of Kennedy on November 22, 1963, when he was interviewed by author Anthony Summers. David's account was verified by Michele Nicoli, a former associate of David's who is currently in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's witness protection program. Sarti was the only man David explicitly named, as he had been killed by police in Mexico City in 1972. The trio had all been working for heroin trafficker Auguste Ricord at the time of Kennedy's death, a known client of the Marseilles underworld. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Sarti
***I stopped at "Rolling Stone".***
I read the whole thing, and the ONE thing that stands out for me is ROLLING STONE.
Gee, I wonder where this writer stands on the ideological spectrum...
LBJ was looking at going to the slammer...
"Saint" trying to figure out how to get a big payday for himself, look out for a movie or a book based on this "startling new information."
"Saint" needs to get his story straight, though. So was Pop one of the tramps or did Pop refuse to be involved in the plot? Oh, foolish consistency!
i always thought it was jackie........hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned...
I believe the part about Costner being a numbskull...
LBJ had a lot to gain. I seriously doubt he would have become president had the assasination not occured. I agree that the fatal shot that day came from the front. I also think that Oswald was just what he said, "a patsy". I don't think he fired a shot that day, but was set up to take the fall. LBJ was ruthless and at his worst on 11/22/63 (in my own personal, correct opinion).
I don't see Carl Albert in that photo.
And in 1963, John McCormick was Speaker.
Better yet, just read the book
"Six Seconds in Dallas".
It proves he was also shot from the front.
Now we can add LBJ to the FBI, the CIA, the Mafia, George Bush the Elder, and anyone else who supposedly killed Kennedy.
I have never seen the photo of the "three tramps", or any reference to it before.
Can anyone here put it up for all to see?
I don't know if I believe the story, but it is at least as credible as what Earl Warren and Jerry Ford cooked up.
My thoughts, too. The story indicated that the son needed cash and the best taker he had was Costner for $100 a day. Yikes! Of course his father knew who killed Kennedy- that's why he was worth three figures a day for info! Otherwise, the son would have hopped off the gravy train. I chuckled at the "murder of Che" line and reminded myself that it was in Rolling Stoned. Quite a story- I do hope they got around to confirming it and asked Hunt if it was accurate. Oops- he's dead. I do hope the son had the foresight to have the old guy draw a map to Jimmy Hoffa's body as well.
Is that like a "numchuck"?
I always thought it was the family of Diem getting even for his death. Politics is a generational thing yonder and JFK upset their applecart big time.
Oswald killed Kennedy by himself...end of story.
Don't fall into this conspiracy trap the Democrats have fomented all these years in an effort to make his presidency more important than it was. People like to believe in a conspiracy because A) it's more fun, and B)the leftist media, teachers and cultural elites don't want to believe that some lone kook did there guy in.
The author would have felt right at home in Loose Change.
Two of the 'three tramps' look amazingly like Frank Sturgis and E. Howard Hunt.
Johnson's longtime mistress also said he knew the night before that the assassination was planned.
It is availabe on Amazon. He was LBJ's personal lawyer in Austin, and in position to know. You don't have to believe it but it is good reading!
Years ago I read "High Treason" and a number of those other conspiracy books and took seriously the idea that because there was no way a "magic bullet" could pass through Kennedy's neck, stop in midair, move upward and then enter Connolly from the back, that there must have been a second gunman.
However, I later learned that the authors of those books and other conspiracy theorists misrepresented the relative positions of the two men - because Connolly was seated in a fold-out jump seat and Kennedy was on the back bench-style seat of the limo, Connolly was NOT level with Kennedy but was seated much LOWER.
In fact, when the relative position of the two men given the ACTUAL HEIGHT of the two seats they were sitting in is taken into account, the bullet could go nowhere else but from Kennedy's neck into Connolly's back and then into Connolly's wrist.
So there was no "second gunman." It was all based on a false representation to sell books.
Oliver Stone repeated the misrepresentation in his movie "JFK" in the famous scene where he had Costner arrange two chairs on the floor, one behind the other, to demonstrate the "magic bullet" theory. The chairs are at the same height, which was not true of the two seats in the limo.
There was a good documentary within the last 2-3 yrs which used computerized three-dimensional modeling to recreate at each moment in time the exact positions of the two men in their seats in the limo and the line of sight from the book depository window, synchronized with the Zapruder film and sound recordings of the gunshots, and demonstrated beyond any doubt that the shots from the book depository window were the only ones to strike the limo and its occupants.
bump for later
..unfortunately, the computer animation does not match the wounds. JFK was hit in the back...and supposedly the magic bullet comes out his neck...on a bullet that was coming from above.
computer animation = GIGO
Kennedys inaugural address on January 20, 1961 was a call to service, a signal for a new generation to assume leadership, and his words resonated with America. Tired of Eisenhower, shocked by the Soviet Unions Sputnik, angry and concerned about the Cold War, and determined to bring civil rights to African-Americans, the time for action had arrived. The silent generation would be replaced with activists in many areas.
When Johnson was sworn in that same day, the new vice president was nervous, reading his speech poorly. He was unhappy to be out of power, but he had other problems that were far more serious than being inaugurated Vice President of the United States. His true concern that day was that his many schemes with unsavory partners would surface, and one was particular concern, that of Billy Sol Estes. Trouble loomed ahead, this time threatening to be far more destructive than Doug Kinser had ever been. Clark had contained the Estes problem last year, in 1960. With the election now over, some very dangerous yet necessary steps would have to be taken to preserve Johnsons personal victory.
Ed Clark had arrived in Washington several days before the inaugural ceremonies were held, ostensibly to help celebrate. Clark never had time for such pleasures; he was always too busy exercising power. Among other things, he was there regarding the ongoing investigation by the Department of Agriculture into Estes handling of cotton allotments. Although recognized as an asset for Johnson as early as 1958, Estes was by 1960 out of control, enriching himself from government price controls by innovative means. The USDA had been trying to get ahead of him and trap him, but Estes repeatedly changed his financing approaches to deceive them with new schemes. Agriculture officials were doing their best to close the gaps in their regulations and to nail Estes.
Time and again, the successive cash schemes enriched both Estes and Johnson with large sums transferred to the then Senate Majority Leaders political re-election accounts. Those same sums were later transferred to the Brazos-Tenth Corporation administered by my law partner, Don Thomas for "investment -- 20/20/40."
Johnson was thoroughly aware of the fact that Estes was the target of an investigation. In those days, word of criminal reviews were routinely reported to top government officials known to be involved with the suspect. Just to keep politics out of the investigation, nothing had been done by USDA during the 1960 campaign; however, a top USDA inspector, Henry Marshall, had been assigned to see what was going on and his efforts were approaching critical mass. Johnson knew it was only a matter of time.
Two days before taking the oath of office as vice president, at an evening inaugural celebration at his Washington home, Johnson met in the backyard with Estes and Clifton Carter, Johnsons man at the Democratic National Committee and one of Clarks former Army buddies. A new snow had moved through Washington and the evening air was freezing. Despite the cold the three met outside because complete privacy was required. For the moment, the visiting dignitaries and well-wishers were forgotten. There was no celebrating.
Johnson was inwardly furious at Estes because the promoter did not know how to enrich himself from government and get away with it. Johnson, through Clark, knew how far to take corruption and how to use the attorney-client privilege to protect the money. In Estess case, however, stolen land already subject to government control is not easily concealed. There was just too much of an audit trail. The problem for Johnson was the fear that Estes would disclose everything, that he would squeal. The soon to be inaugurated vice president of the United States was ready to agree to anything so that Estes would not take him down any further.
At the meeting Johnson was briefed by Carter and the three men then reviewed their options, none promising. Johnson was not yet convinced the final action Carter and Estes were suggesting was necessary. Agent Marshall would have to be "taken care of for good" only if he probed further and could not be deterred. The final decision was ambiguous but final, that Marshall must somehow be stopped.
The three men realized that a scandal like this was political poison; it would mean the end of Johnsons career. Because Johnson had further ambitions, that disaster could not be allowed to happen. Estes was told to get Wallace to meet with Marshall and try to make the man see reason. If it meant a payoff, okay. Just get him to quit stirring up trouble. Estes was assured he and his family would be protected so long as Johnson was never mentioned.
In those vague terms, those words of art, those code words used by the politically sophisticated, the three agreed that Estes was empowered to let Wallace take whatever action was necessary. Under that guise, a fatal mistake was made.
A few days later Estes reported back to Johnson that everything was fine as Marshall had assured him there were no problems. Johnson, however, was not as certain as the ever-optimistic Estes. Nervous for his future, he wrote the new USDA Secretary Orville Freeman. Johnson got the factsall was not well with Estes.
Within two weeks, Estes insisted on another meeting. At the time Johnson was back in Texas. Because Estes had to be contained, Johnson agreed to fly to Pecos.
Early in the morning on February 7, 1962, Johnson called for his airplane. The day was heavily overcast, not safe for flying. His pilots had stayed in Austin the night before to be with their families, knowing they would have to fly to the Johnson Ranch in the morning; however, on seeing the weather, they did not want to fly in the thick fog.
For further insight into the key event, in an exercise of the journalistic novel and an attorneys right in jury argument to develop a case, the discussion between Johnson and Clark is included in chapter 17 on Desperation at page 245. They ordered the pilots to make the trip and, at the same time, Clark realized the depth of the problems Johnson faced. As events turned out after that morning of deep fog at the ranch, Johnson had over a year before the scandal made the headlines.
The pilots had only a few hours. Flying into the muck, they looked for the ranchs airstrip. No luck. Flying too low as they looked for a landmark, the two pilots crashed and died on a hillside near Johnsons ranch. In the dense and rocky brush, the bodies were not recovered for three days.
Apologists for Johnson assert he was a compassionate man. This first tragedy of the assassination underscores, once again, the obvious fact that he was not. When the pressure was great enough, particularly as it was in this case where criminal disclosures were threatened, Johnson would do anything.
In the resulting investigation, Johnson was appropriately distressed, even traveling to the crash site to show his false concern. The families of the two pilots were paid handsomely, the record was sealed, and the matter was closed. Within the next year, it would be reopened.
The death of the two pilots was a forecast of things to come. Johnson had killed men before, he was now responsible for the death of the two pilots, and he would in his desperation kill again. For him, there was no value to human life when it meant saving his future, his ambitions, his reputation, and his life.
Soon after, Johnson would take a military plane to Abilene, Texas, hoping for secrecy as he went to a meet Estes and his representatives. All went well until the plane went off the runway and a report had to be filed. Questions were raised about what had happened, but Johnson simply ignored media inquiries. After all, peace had been preserved with Estes, in person.
Over the next four months as USDAS investigation dragged back and forth, Wallace prepared for his fateful meeting. An important first step had already been taken. Wallace had moved to California, giving him a new cover. His job was with the same group of companies. The move had been made just before the end of January, right after Estes met with Johnson in Washington.
The effort at containing Marshall came to a head when, on June 3, 1961, Wallace arrived at Marshalls small ranch near Bryan, Texas. The confrontation took place in Robertson County, an agricultural area north and west of Bryan. Wallace had driven to the meeting, stopping at a filling station to ask for directions. He then went to the ranch where the two men met in a quiet, isolated place. They had to get to the heart of the matter at a location where they could talk freely, meaning without witnesses.
Wallace was not successful in bringing an end to the investigation. Marshall refused to cooperate. During the heated argument that resulted, acting pursuant to his vague instructions, Wallace attacked.
Angered at an inability to get Marshall to cooperate at all, Wallace viciously hit the man with a pistol. Marshall fell to the ground, the side of his head cut and his eye badly bruised. Since Marshall was unconscious, Wallace felt he had time to stage a suicide. Rigging a plastic liner to the exhaust and starting Marshalls truck, Wallace counted on carbon monoxide poisoning to kill. Marshall inhaled a substantial amount of the exhausts fumes, almost a fatal dose. While the poisoning was underway, Wallace removed Marshalls personal belongings and placed them on the seat of the pickup.
Then Wallace panicked. The exhaust was taking too long. He reportedly heard a truck driving nearby. Although he saw no one and no one saw the crime, Wallace had to get out of there. There was a bolt-action rifle in Marshalls truck so Wallace used the mans own weapon to shoot him five times in the side of his lower torso. Three of the shots were sufficient to kill him. After the fifth shot, finally convinced Marshall was dead, Wallace left.
At the first phone he could find, Wallace called Carter to let him know what happened. Carter told Wallace to stick around, to see if anything else needed to be done. They had to get word from Clark.
Later that afternoon, Marshalls cousin discovered the body. He was with a man from Cliff Carters Pepsi Cola bottling company in nearby Bryan. The body was near the exhaust, the rifle nearby. Personal effects were on the seat of the pickup. There was no suicide note.
The next day, the coroner ruled the death was a suicide. Working with Carter, the local authorities took quick action to cover up the crime. There was no need for an investigation. Somehow, it was accepted that a man nearly dead could work a bolt-action rifle several times, to fire bullets in his own body. Only a fix with the justice of the peace could do it, and, as we have seen, that just happened to be Clarks modus operandi.
Wallace, believing everything was okay, went back to the filling station the next morning, to tell the attendant he had not really needed to go to the Marshall ranch and had not gone there. He then returned to California, his perfect cover, out of reach of Texas criminal authorities.
Over twenty years later, a grand jury was again convened to investigate the Marshall death. It concluded murder had been committed and that Johnson, Carter and Wallace were the co-conspirators in the murderer.
Unfortunately, this startling decision by the grand jury was not issued until 1985. Johnson was not charged because he was dead. The other two other conspirators had also passed on and escaped justice. Estes had immunity and told what had happened in 1961, from January in Washington to June in Robertson County. The key testimony and evidence was not just from Estes; the jury also heard from Texas Ranger Clint Peoples, finally able to obtain Estess testimony and fit the facts together.
In the history of any event, what happened is usually told chronologically. Since the indictment report was not issued until 24 years after the murder, the all-important chronology of Johnsons motivations in 1961 may be difficult to appreciate. The public record is very different when Clark was not there in 1985 to provide the needed defense. By placing the grand jury action where it belongs, the motivations for what followed should be far easier to understand.
Historians will play games with history. One will write the story of what would have happened if the South had won the Civil War. Another will write what life in America would be like if he was living in a nation where the South won and he was trying to figure what it would be like if the Union won. Still another imagines Hitler had conquered England and Russia.
Johnsons history has a similar feature. Events did not happen they way they should have. To avoid guessing, the belated indictment is placed where it belongs. What we have to do is assume the indictment was returned in the summer of 1961, and that law enforcement acted in a timely and proper way. If so, one of those different worlds historians imagine would be still here, one in which John Kennedy remained president and Lyndon Johnson was convicted of murder.
Remarkably, even into the 1990s, apologists for the Warren Commission oppose efforts by Estes to tell his story. Houston attorney Doug Caddy was enlisted to seek immunity for Estes in return for his testimony to the Department of Justice. All was well when the government attorneys arrived to interview Estes. Notice was received, however, that a state district attorney had refused immunity for Estes, and the interview was canceled.
We know what happened with the Marshall murder and with the indictment. The murder plan started with an argument, and, when Marshall proved intractable, he was killed. This may not have been according to plan and was done out of anger and frustration. Marshall had to be taken care of for good. Clarks agents then moved quickly to cover up. The murder was then buried for over twenty years. Only on distant hindsight do we finally have the benefit of knowing Johnson was behind the murder of Henry Marshall and that Wallace was the gunman. We also see how Clark worked his machinery to control the key legal system.
In 1961, in the real time of Johnsons history, Marshall was ruled a suicide. The local authorities readily accepted the ruling. The death of a federal investigator working on a high-profile political case, however, did not end the case. Many eyebrows were raised in Washington, and the USDA was determined to keep looking. Fully appreciating the many political overtones, USDA officials knew a solid case had to be developed. Marshalls death required that his work had to be started over. The new investigators went to work. Robert Kennedy, as attorney general, gave his full support to the effort.
Estes would cooperate because he was sure he could convince them nothing wrong had happened. He could convince anyone, he believed, of anything. With his allotments program under intense review, however, money could not be obtained from USDA. He turned to his ongoing scheme of leasing fertilizer tanks that did not exist. Again, he hoped to get enough money to pay off his debt. As it turned out, the clock was running on his timetable for financial recovery.
Copyright © 2003 Barr McClellan
Death Of Woody Harrelson's Dad
> Normally, this is a news story that I would have ignored, save for the fact that Woody Harrelson's father may have some connection to the JFK assassination.
Below is a picture of the "three tramps" taken into custody in Dallas on that fateful day.
They were supposedly vagrants hanging around the railyards near Dealey Plaza, yet many have noted their relatively clean attire and hair. The stories vary, but the three men were interviewed (some say arrested and held for several days) by the Dallas Police. Unfortunately, their names were never recorded, and nobody can say for sure their identities.
However, many speculate that the middle "tramp" -- the tall one -- was Charles Harrelson (Woody's dad) who passed away yesterday. Charles Harrelson was a hitman at the time, and was in Texas at the time. Years later, he reportedly admitted (from his jail cell, where he served a life sentence for the murder of a federal judge) that he was involved in the JFK assassination. But even if he said that, it may be the product of rumors about his involvement, rather than the genesis of them.
In any event, it's one of the many threads in that piece of Americana known as "JFK conspiracy theory".
Actually it does match the wounds. The conspiracy book sellers have misrepresented the position of the entry wound where JFK's neck meets his back.
One has to go to the autopsy report and the autopsy photographs to see the actual position of that entry wound, and it is actually higher than the conspiracy book sellers would have the public believe.
Stopped right there...
You forgot the mens' room attendant at the Pentagon...