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To: Vision

Yes. I will maintain the list. This is nothing new; Newt has held this position for a while.

Do I agree with him? No.

But it’s not a deal breaker, because I think he will offer more sensible solutions than the other candidates.

I don’t know which of the other candidates don’t buy into the global warming schtick.

64 posted on 04/10/2007 2:08:23 PM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: B Knotts
I appreciate your hard work but please take me off the list.
65 posted on 04/10/2007 2:10:10 PM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: B Knotts
Please take me off the Newt ping list.

Global Warming Hysteria or Nanny State Behavior Syndrome in an elected official isn't a disease in and of is simply a symptom of a much larger disease...SOCIALISM.

There are only 2 plausible explanations why a politician would take this position:

A. He/she actually believes the junk science and bogus which case he/she is TOO STUPID to hold public office, or

B. He/she is just pandering to the liberal lame stream media in order to garner power for it's own which case they are even more dangerous than A.

131 posted on 04/10/2007 7:17:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal should be a convenience store.)
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To: B Knotts; All
"This is nothing new; Newt has held this position for a while."

From my post yesterday:

Newt is a realist and is trying to head the "central planners" off at the pass because they have spent many years indoctrinating people and too many of them now believe the Chicken-Little alarmist lies. Perception is reality.

Luckily, we now have an opening to turn the tables on the eco-wackos, and convince the people to go for Newt's "pleasure" solution over Kerry's "pain" solution - which is how Newt brilliantly phrased it yesterday.

I think that the fact that they picked CO-2 in the atmosphere to use as their culprit behind "anthropomorphic-induced warming" (human-induced], means that they shot themselves in the foot. The FASTEST way to reduce CO-2 in the atmosphere is to build more nuclear power plants. And if we're to be able to bring nuclear power plants on line as fast as France, China and Russia do, (5 years) that means we will have to roll back our draconian "taxes and regulations" which were deliberately designed to thwart the building of more plants.

June 26 2006 Other Inconvenient Truths - Click to listen to Newt's one and 1/2-minute spot


March 1 2007 The Branson Prize (25 million to the scientist who can invent a ..) - Click to listen to Newt's one and 1/2-minute spot


April 5 2007 Kerry, Gingrich announce climate showdown- HERE

Excerpt: ".... Gingrich, the architect of the “Contract with America” that led to the Republican takeover of the House in 1994, recently teamed up with conservationist Terry Maple to author A Contract with the Earth. Like his Contract with America, A Contract with the Earth, due out Nov. 1, 2007, is based on a 10-point “contract” calling for a bipartisan approach to solving climate issues.

“America should focus its energy policy in four areas,” Gingrich writes on his website. “Basic research for a new energy system, incentives for conservation, more renewable resources, and environmentally sound development of fossil fuels. “The lengthy process of environmental planning must be made more efficient and cost effective,” he adds.


Re: the Debate on 4/10/07 mentioned below. No doubt the video of the debate will be available today or tomorrow: HERE

John Kerry, Newt Gingrich Take On Environment, Each Other Greg Simmons

The global warming debate has been heating up in Washington lately, but reached new heights Tuesday when partisan heavies Sen. John Kerry and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich went head-to-head over the issue on Capitol Hill.

What might have been a surprise to some people watching the debate was that Kerry and Gingrich were cordial, not at each other's throats, and actually agreed ­ and said so several times ­ on the key point at hand: that climate change is a problem and something needs to be done.

In their opening statements, both men made reference to the prize-fight billing, but downplayed any expectations of animosity.

"I'm sure we're going to have an interesting dialogue about this," Gingrich said with a grin during his opening remarks.

Part of what made the debate enticing was the political backdrop: Kerry was the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee and remains a Bush administration critic; and Gingrich led the conservative revolution that swept Congress in 1994 and might be positioning himself as a candidate for the presidency in 2008.

But how they said they would tackle the global warming problem is where they differed.

Talking from a podium in the Russell Senate Office Building, Gingrich argued that a program including cash prizes, targeted tax cuts and other economic incentives will lure business entrepreneurs to develop technology to tackle the climate problem. He said that type of program would be faster than a bureaucratic government program because it will avoid the rush of special interests to avoid regulation and costly litigation.

Kerry said he favors government regulation first because markets, while they work, cannot act fast enough to tackle the looming problem he pointed to frequently: reaching the "tipping point" level of greenhouse gases of 450 parts per million. Scientists believe that level of greenhouse gases would seriously hurt worldwide economies. Kerry also advocated a so-called cap-and-trade program that would set economy-wide carbon emission limits.

Gingrich began first with a concession to his opponent. Holding the new book by Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, Gingrich said, "This is a very good book. As a clearly right-wing reader, I would commend the book" as one that shows examples of local leadership on environmental issues.

"I would agree with about 60 percent of this book," he added.

Kerry of Massachusetts also took a friendly stance in his opening remarks before turning to the debate, which was sponsored by the New York University Robert Wagner School of Public Service, the Brookings Institution and the Cato Institute.

"While I don't have his book in hand, and I don't know what it's about, I've always enjoyed every dialogue he and I have ever had," Kerry said, calling the global-warming face-off the "environmental version of the Lincoln-Douglas debates."

Gingrich said he will be pushing for a way to deal with climate change that is not heavy on regulation ­ a point on which he criticized Kerry's plan.

"I want to suggest that we need a new science- and technology-based, entrepreneurial, market-oriented and locally led environmentalism," Gingrich said.

Gingrich raised some discrepancies among the science that has led to the current data on climate change, but when asked pointedly about science doubters, like Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., Gingrich strongly held the case that climate change is a problem.

"What would you say to Sen. Inhofe and others in the Senate who are resisting even science? What's your message to them here today?" Kerry asked.

"My message, I think is that the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere ­"

"And do it urgently, now?" Kerry interrupted.

"Urgently, yes," Gingrich said. [[[Yes- we have urgently needed to go to nuclear energy, etc., for many years but the environmentalist-whacko base of the DemocRAT party have stopped us cold. But Nuclear power is the only option if we head towards a low carbon, hydrogen economy - a hydrogen economy requires vast amounts of energy which only nuclear can provide. "75% of France's energy supplies are derived from nuclear generation. ..concerns voiced throughout the industry is the dearth of skilled technicians and engineers, the result of an industry perceived for years as having no future. Nuclear Regulatory Commission officials regularly cite access to qualified staff as a prerequisite to approving a ramp-up of the industry. "There are still quite a few challenges facing the industry, starting with the fact that they haven't built one of these plants in a long time. .." 10/16/06 HERE ]]]

But Gingrich also said that up to now, conservatives have been slow to loathe with environmental policy because, he said, "For most of the last 30 years, the environment has a been a powerful emotional tool for bigger government and higher taxes. And therefore if you're a conservative, if you hear these arguments, you know what's coming next."

"So even though it might be the right thing to do, you might end up fighting it because you don't want the bigger government and the higher taxes."

Gingrich said there must be a "green conservatism." [Newt knows that there already is a Green Conservatism]

"There has to be a willingness to stand up and say, alright, here's the right way to solve these as seen by our values system," Gingrich said. [See above]

Gingrich said there needs to be more money available in the form of incentives to find better ways of bringing forward new technology.

"Regulation and litigation are the least effective" ways to get change.

Kerry said he's not against a market-based approach, but he believes that the nation's corporations and international governments will not take more environmentally friendly measures without U.S. government response.

"Ladies and gentleman, this is a moral obligation. [[[ - Yes. Kerry knows it's not nice to fool 'Mother Gaia' - ]]]

It's one in which we can [make] money. [[[ Ahhhh yes - "the money" - as in "follow the money."]]]

That's what those business leaders realize. We need to show the leadership. It's the only way to get China and India to participate, and that's why you have to take this with a global pricing of carbon ­ certainly economy wide in the United States to start with­ and we need to offer the leadership."

Kerry argued that Gingrich's position doesn't allow for fast enough action. [[[ Here comes the "bum's rush" to get emotion-driven fools to "act fast" (before their brains - if any - have a chance to get into gear), and agree to the harmful and painful "solutions" that big government central planners have in mind to separate the useful idiots from their money and other resources. ]]]

"He takes the consensus of the U.N. report, but then essentially says, what we need to do is encourage the marketplace to go out and respond, and to unleash science, to unleash technology," Kerry said.

He contended that Gingrich's solution won't deal with "the crises that we have to respond to immediately, quickly," and added that Gingrich's stance is "like saying, 'Barry Bonds, go investigate steroids.' "

Also see HERE bttt

200 posted on 04/12/2007 8:38:42 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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