Posted on 04/13/2007 9:05:55 PM PDT by Valin
There's only one thing to do with the spiked PBS documentary, "Islam vs. Islamist: Voices from the Muslim Center." Air it. If the Public Broadcasting Service won't reconsider, this window on the struggle for the soul of Islam in the West -- controversial and hard-hitting -- will be picked up by some other network. It's inevitable.
We watched "Islam vs. Islamists," and several things stand out. The stories of embattled moderate Muslims in the contemporary United States, Canada, France and Denmark are gripping and too important to relegate to the dustbin.
(snip)
The stories speak for themselves when allowed to, but since the documentary is not yet available publicly, here's a preview. Naser Khader in some respects is the heart of the film's several threads. This Syrian-born Danish lawmaker's life has been threatened for recommending (among other things) that would-be Islamists who want to establish Shariah in Denmark should move to Saudi Arabia.
For simply asking the question, Mr. Khader's life is imperiled. He is filmed travelling with heavy security. (snip)
There's Mohamed Sifaoui. This Paris-based journalist risked his life filming an undercover expose on terrorists and extremists, including the covert filming of terrorists who vow to murder Mr. Khader if he ever reaches high office in Denmark. Mr. Sifaoui himself knows terrorist violence well. The Algerian newspaper he worked for years ago was bombed by militant terrorists moments after he left the building. (Snip)
What distinguishes "Islam vs. Islamists," beyond these stories of the embattled, is its access to and portrayals of critics, including violent ones, and the critics of like-minded moderates elsewhere.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Good. He's dead.
I’ll Be Glad When You’re Dead) You Rascal You
I’ll be glad when you’re dead, you rascal you
I’ll be glad when you’re dead, you rascal you
You know you done me wrong
You stole my wife and gone
I’ll be glad when you’re dead, you rascal you
I’m gonna kill you just for fun, you rascal you
I’m gonna kill you just for fun, you rascal you
I’m gonna kill you just for fun
The bugs can have you when I’m done
I’ll be glad when you’re dead, you rascal you......
Too bad it wasn’t a bullet. Or a headsman’s axe. Or a remote control bomb.
LOL! Or better yet, all three at once...
No such thingi as a moderate Muslim. They cult of Islam is proof of that. The only good Muslim is one that leaves their cult and has nothing to do with it.
Right! That’s why
1 All those Iraqis soldiers are fighting and dying along side Americas soldiers in Iraq. I guess it’s all part of a giant Islamic PLOT.
2 That’s why the streets of Flint Mi. are running red with blood.
You might try reading the article before you say something silly.
The Left is censoring them.
Good old Public Broadcasting! In order to be fair and honest, they should feature Bridgett Gabriel for an hour. In case you get suckered in by them, log onto: http://americancongressfortruth.org/ and learn the truth about “Muslim moderates”, the entire 2% of Islam.
I would never get suckered in by someone who say “Muslim moderates”, the entire 2% of Islam.
According to the likes of Steven Emerson, Daniel Pipes, Dr. Benard Lewis the number of Wahhabist/Salafist is around 15% of the worlds Muslims. Not 15% of 1.3 billion is a lot of people...but that’s a far cry from the 98% Bridgett Gabriel states.
“No such thingi as a moderate Muslim. They cult of Islam is proof of that. The only good Muslim is one that leaves their cult and has nothing to do with it.”
If the above were true we wouldn’t be spending half a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives to bring democracy to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and the Islamic Republic of Iraq. We also wouldn’t be providing foreign aid to Egypt and Jordan alone that equals our aid to Israel. The foreign policy of the US in the Middle East is based on supporting moderate Muslim states as a bulwark against radical Islam.
I am afraid that it is a matter of lives and money spent on a people who do not think as the West thinks. It is true many of them risked their very lives to vote in an election. But how many of them can assimilate Democracy into their way of life, which has been war with eachother for centuries? We are there, and we should finish what we began, if that is possible. But our complete lack of understanding of an entirely different culture is what got us there in the first place.
But how many of them can assimilate Democracy into their way of life, which has been war with eachother for centuries?
I don’t know. Why don’t you ask the Germans or the French, and the English as I recall they spent a couple of years fighting each other.
You might review the Koran before you go further. There can be NO moderate muslims because their Koran WILL NOT ALLOW IT !!!
>I don’t know. Why don’t you ask the Germans or the French, and the English as I recall they spent a couple of years fighting each other (sic).<
You are right. You don’t know. A completely different mindset, you see, between the free world and the world of Islam. There are no compromises with Islam. You either are Muslim or you are dead.
Tell that to Walid Phares, Dr. Tawfik Hamid, Reza Aslan, Shaykh Hisham Muhammad Kabbani, Zalmay Khalizad...etc.
the problem is way to many people buy into the Wahhabi version of Islam being pushed by the likes of Robert Spencer. We need a lot less Robert Spencer and a whole lot more Dr. Benard Lewis.
And 300 years ago it was the mind set that was in Europe, They changed and so will the Islamic world. Islam will change or it will go away. What we are seeing today in the GWOT is a civil war inside Islam and we are now forced to get involved. It been going on (in modern times) since the end of WWI and the downfall of the Ottomans.
Dream on.
It is amazing how people who aren’t muslims think they can go around telling people who are moderate muslims that -’there ain’t no such thing as a moderate muslim’.
Many people born into that religion want to get away from that hard row to hoe. They want to lead a more secular life and get along with us infidel swine.
Those people are just heretics. They should get out of the religion.
They can call themselves Muslims, but in fact if they don't adhere to the fundamentals of the religion as written in the Koran and Hadiths,they are just heretics going through the pick and choose motions of the religion. Like the cafeteria Christians do.
We are very fortunate that so many Muslims are slackers and more interested in worldly gains than in the supernatural. We can use all the usefull idiot Muslims we can find. But still the heretics should abandon the religion.
The moderate Muslims can't debate the Wahabbis/ Salafist in the Mosque because the Moderates don't have the Koran and Hadiths on their side of the argument. The fundamentalist will win the argument every time.
Calling yourself a Muslim won't make you one.
i.e. I am a Christian, and a darn good one. I expectg to die go to heaven ,sit at the right hand of God and live happily ever after. But I believe in one God only. Certainly God is not broken up into 3 divine persons like Father Son and Holy Ghost.That's ridiculous. And I do not believe Jesus was a divine person. But I call myself a Christian, and think Other Christians should adopt my take on the religion. Just like the heretical Muslims want the religion changed to Islam lite. - tom
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