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Ron Paul: A Conservative Study in Contrasts
The Politico ^ | April 18, 2007 | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 04/19/2007 7:22:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe

Excerpt: The candidate is one of the most outspoken defenders of gun rights in Congress and has never voted for a bill restricting gun ownership. He thinks this week's tragedy at Virginia Tech could have been prevented if the university allowed students and professors to carry concealed weapons. "People are a little more cautious if somebody might have a gun there. A concealed gun carried by a responsible person, that might have ended the problem that they had at Virginia Tech, with one person being killed, or two people being killed," he said. Another signature Paul proposal is support for the elimination of income taxes. His campaign slogan in congressional elections has been "The Taxpayer's Best Friend." "I don't think we need an income tax," Paul said. "I promised my people I would do anything and everything I can to get rid of the income tax, to repeal the 16th Amendment, never vote to raise taxes and always vote to lower taxes. And it's been a popular position."

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KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; loser; nut; paul; ronpaul
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To: John D
You mean you want the other Republicans to advocate the cut and run cowardly policy of Ron Paul? I sure do not. Why is he and his democrat allies so insistent that the terrorists win in Iraq?

OK Number one. From night one GW Bush took our troops to Iraq for the purpose NATION BUILDING. Anyone with two functional brain cells could see it coming when such things as utilities, roads, bridges, and communications were spared. Those were take out first night items on any battle field.

Second Bush is a liar or a hypocrite on nation building take your pick. Why? Because he condemned Clinton/Gore for nation building in the second 2000 debates in Boston. Look it up Bush said he was against nation building.

In his own words.MODERATOR: Sure, absolutely, sure. Somalia.
BUSH: Started off as a humanitarian mission and it changed into a nation-building mission, and that's where the mission went wrong. The mission was changed. And as a result, our nation paid a price. And so I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building. I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war. I think our troops ought to be used to help overthrow the dictator when it's in our best interests. But in this case it was a nation-building exercise, and same with Haiti. I wouldn't have supported either.

Third, you do not go to war to make friends with the enemy nation you go there to destroy them.

Fourth, our Constitution requires a formal Declaration of War that Bush and his GOP and DEM shills ignored. An authorization of force is not a declaration of war. As such the U.S. Congress is not by any means committed to this war as it can plainly be seen. RON PAUL CALLED FOR A FORMAL CONGRESSIONAL DECLARATION OF WAR that is a fact. Name me the other Republicans who had the guts.

41 posted on 04/20/2007 7:18:51 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Designer II
Conservatism in foreign policy is interventionism. I have been actively involved in GOP/conservative politics for over 40 years, was a state chairman for Reagan when he challenged Ford, and I was a Congressional nominee.

Paleocowardice was last a claimant for the title of "conservative" before Pearl Harbor. Our nation needs neither the internationalist globaloney of MSM, nor the mirror image spineless cowardice of "paleos" and leftists alike. We need a manly foreign policy which features aggressive and effective military intervention whenever necessary to vindicate American interests. We intervene when we want, why we want and to the extent we want and should seek no approval whatsoever from any other nation. If they want to help, we can let them. If not, not. No kowtowing to the UN or to Putin or to Red China or to France, or to the other former "powers" who are now PC surrender monkeys of old Europe.

If the Islamofascisti or other enemies of our nation and our culture don't like that, toooooo baaaaaaad!!! In foreign policy, neither George McGovern nor the despicable Neville Chamberlain nor Jane Fonda nor Dennis Cuckoocinich nor PaleoPaulie nor Weepy Walter Jones nor John Duncan are even vaguely conservative any more than are John Murtha, John the Traitor Kerry, Ted the Swimming Driver, BaaBaa Boxer, Harry (despicable treasonous weasel) Reid, Facelift Nancy or the rest of the antiwar, AntiAmerican slime.

AND the term "world's policeman" is every bit as much a part of 1960s-70s Marxist antiwar AntiAmerican jargon as "national liberation", "self-determination" and te rest of the Daily Worker lexicon.

Isolationists are the cowardly scum who think that if they stick their heads in the sand like ostriches the baaaaad men will go away. Internationalists are those who want to squander American tax money on foreign aid, "nation building", and payoffs to foreign dictators in exchange for "peace in our time" as Chamberlain used to whine.

Dubya ain't perfect but he is near infinitely superior to the isolationist ostriches like paleoPaulie and Weepy Walter and UpChuck Hegel and probably Duncan.

If you want to stick up for the cowards who are "paleos", feel free but you will find overwhelming opposition here. It's not 1935 and we're not going back.

42 posted on 04/20/2007 9:16:40 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: The_Eaglet
On foreign policy, military policy and war, paleoPaulie is the functional equivalent of the worst cowardly antiwar, antiAmerican Demonrats (such as Dennis Cuckoocinich, Paul Abercrombie, Nancy Facelift, et al.).

GOP Congressmen and GOP candidates naturally enough act like, well, Republicans and not like paleoPaulie, the king of squish in the face of America's enemies. He is a Congressman and he does not look like much when posing as philosopher king or idiot savant or Ramsay Clark or whatever.

43 posted on 04/20/2007 9:27:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Wolfie
Conservative foreign/military policy features a strong military and interventionism on our terms and no one else's, not endless and useless diployakkityyak or eccentric notions of process that make action in our national interest cumbersome to the nth degree.

It is the liberals, Marxists, Demonrats, "paleos" (see Justin Raimondo's antiwar.com) and other antiwar antiAmerican eccentrics who are forever whining whenever this nation actually ACTS rather than blubbering pathetically in their cocktails over how everything is just awful and WHY normal folks have no use for paleoPaulie (no Marxist, no liberal generally but a "useful idiot" nonetheless).

No one is making you fight. If you want to sit it out, feel free. Conservatives will do the heavy lifting as ever while the Libertoonian eccentrics spin excuses for favoring our nation's enemies over our nation.

44 posted on 04/20/2007 9:40:45 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
"I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building."

- George W. Bush, 2000

"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is going around the world saying this is the way its gotta be."

- George W. Bush


45 posted on 04/20/2007 11:38:04 PM PDT by Verax
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To: cva66snipe

46 posted on 04/21/2007 12:04:07 AM PDT by Verax
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To: cva66snipe; OrthodoxPresbyterian
OK Number one. From night one GW Bush took our troops to Iraq for the purpose NATION BUILDING. Anyone with two functional brain cells could see it coming when such things as utilities, roads, bridges, and communications were spared. Those were take out first night items on any battle field.

The cowardice is refusal to direct defense resources toward actual defense of the borders. The cowardice is failure to stop wasting troops and lives in liberal nation-building offensives.

47 posted on 04/21/2007 5:06:47 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: BlackElk; Designer II; cva66snipe
Conservatism Liberalism in foreign policy is interventionism.

Fixed.

48 posted on 04/21/2007 5:10:23 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: BlackElk; cva66snipe

There is no Congressman with the name “PaleoPaulie.”


49 posted on 04/21/2007 5:12:38 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Verax; cva66snipe
"I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building." - George W. Bush, 2000

President Bush was right about this. It is a shame that he changed to a liberal position and wasted our tax dollars accordingly.

50 posted on 04/21/2007 5:14:59 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Verax

Verax, who is in that picture?


51 posted on 04/21/2007 5:15:52 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

Charlton Heston


52 posted on 04/21/2007 5:23:41 AM PDT by Verax
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To: The_Eaglet; Verax
I'd name your cowardly "hero" PaulieWussie or Pauliecrapsthebed but, terms like those, while absolutely accurate as applied to paleoPaulie (sniveling in his hidey hole sucking his thumb while waiting for the baaaaaad men to go away) lacks that certain something that makes alliterative descriptions more memorable.

In American political matters, the cowards are the leftists, the Marxists, the Maoists, the liberals and the remaining 27 isolationist pseudo-rightists engaged in an historical preservation project to remind a new generation of just how craven and despicable the Neville Chamberlains and their pseudo-American counterparts (see paleoPaulie, paleoWeepy Walter, paleoDuncan, paleoUpChuck, ten or twelve pseudocons on FR, Justin(e) Raimondo, and some staffers at the Rockford Institute, at antiwar.com, and at the Lewellyn Rockwell Institute) truly were.

There is also an antiwar/antiAmerican slice of libertarians who wave dollar sign flags while worshiping money only and hallucinating that war, however necessary, is simply a way of wasting their personal money (their personal god) and they are not amused. They are also appalled that most folks see manhood not as an eagerness to engage in interspecies twelvesome stews of all genders but in slaughtering the enemies of our civilization who need to be slaughtered.

Conservatives look forward to your humiliation in next year's primaries.

Maybe paleoPaulie should revive an old political nickname and call himself "Liberty Bell" Paulie. That might get him up to 1% total while avoiding some of the shameful connotations of "paleo." Or, he might achieve the same result by using a campaign logo of an ostrichlike, meek, quavering, terrified minidinosaur having a nervous breakdown over surrounding fangs and claws bigger than its own.

Even the logo dinosaur could have a nickname appropriate to paleoPaulie's campaign: Lunchmeat!

53 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:40 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: The_Eaglet
Yeah, slaughtering mamacitas at the border is paleo"manhood." So is killing their babies. Also, ZPG and Planned Barrenhood are every bit as enthusiastic as are the Junior League and the polo club for such abuses of our military.

Do you have a practical plan for replacing 50+ million surgically slaughtered American babies?

Do you have a practical plan for ignoring the actual constitutional provisions of the 14th Amendment REQUIRING Equal Protection for all PERSONS not just citizens within the jurisdiction of each state? Bear in mind that the shoreline is much longer than the border and, in the absence of a wall-to-wall beach patrol, rather more vulnerable to the immigration.

How much are you personally willing to pay per gallon for gasoline and heating fuel if the Islamolooneytunes and Ugo the Malignant control the oil supplies while we develop alternatives?

PaleoPaulie will NEVER rise politically. He will be quite fortunate not to be defeated by a patriotic candidate for his House seat.

The danger is that the Demonrats elect Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist or Barack Insane Obama or the Breck Girl and that any one of them, every bit as cowardly a mushball as paleoPaulie on his silliest day, and every bit as antiwar and antiAmerican will usher in a petroleum deficiency driven depression to make the 1930s look like Sunnybrook Farm.

Watch Patton three times and get back to us.

54 posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:39 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Verax

Does your photo suggest that Charlton Heston is back in public despite Alzheimer’s? He would never support the spineless and thankfully unelectable and eccentrcrat likes of a wussie like paleoPaulie for president. You know that. America knows that too.


55 posted on 04/21/2007 7:55:35 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Verax

Was that a doctored photo expressing the artist’s ideal, or was the information representative of an actual event?


56 posted on 04/21/2007 11:30:46 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: BlackElk; cva66snipe
I'd name your cowardly "hero" PaulieWussie or Pauliecrapsthebed but, terms like those, while absolutely accurate as applied to paleoPaulie (sniveling in his hidey hole sucking his thumb while waiting for the baaaaaad men to go away) lacks that certain something that makes alliterative descriptions more memorable.

Why are you interested in slander and fallacy?

57 posted on 04/21/2007 11:33:03 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: BlackElk
I see Illinois is still the home of yellow bastards who send other American boys to do their fighting.

Ron Paul is a decorated COMBAT VETERAN, so why don't you show some respect for "the troops" and watch how you throw that C-word around.

58 posted on 04/21/2007 11:34:09 AM PDT by Verax
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To: cva66snipe

I just read that Ron Paul [R] was one of three who voted against the Respect for America’s Fallen Heroes Act. The other two were Barney Frank [D] and David Wu [D].


59 posted on 04/21/2007 11:42:05 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
It's unconstitutional that's why he voted against it. The Senate is full of show-boating lobbyist in training who don't have the SACK to stand up for the Constitution.

I despise anyone who would shame the memory of a fallen hero by protesting their memorial...but I WOULD NEVER dishonor their sacrifice by restricting a FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF ASSEBLY!!

Ron Paul also was the only member of Congress to vote NO on the Patriot Act because NONE OF THEM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT BEFORE THE VOTE!

60 posted on 04/21/2007 11:50:49 AM PDT by Verax
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