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Russia's 5th generation fighter to commence tests in 2009
Zee News ^ | April 20,2007

Posted on 04/21/2007 4:21:17 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Fifth generation fighter tests in Russia to commence in 2009

Moscow, April 20: Russia expects to begin test flights of the fifth generation fighter plane in 2009, while talks are underway for Indian involvement in the project codenamed "prospective frontline aircraft".

"The first flight has been tentatively set for 2009," head of the United Aircraft Corporation Alexei Fyodorov told Russian media.

During President Vladimir Putin's India visit in January last, New Delhi and Moscow had reached a political decision to jointly develop the fifth generation fighter on the basis of a project prepared by Sukhoi Design Bureau.

The two sides are currently negotiating on the financial aspects of the agreement as Moscow has proposed to invest part of the rupee debt New Delhi owes to Russia.

The fifth generation fighter will be equipped with new engines capable of imparting thrust for accelerating its speed in seconds from zero to Mach-2 (twice the speed of sound), radio Mayak reported.

According to it, smart ammunition and beyond visual range missiles capable of "hitting a nail" are being developed for arming the new fighter, which would also have stealth features based on Russian "cold plasma" technology capable of absorbing radar signals.

Bureau Report


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f22; india; russia; sukhoi
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An "official" artistic image of PAK FA(5th gen. fighter) from NPO Saturn

1 posted on 04/21/2007 4:21:22 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Lockheed should sue for patent infringements.

The Russian defense industry hasn't had an original idea since Kalishnikov designed the AK.

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2 posted on 04/21/2007 4:24:21 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Raptorski


3 posted on 04/21/2007 4:27:49 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

round engines = larger rcs. More russian ripped off designs. Pathetic nation.


4 posted on 04/21/2007 4:31:16 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Lurker

“The Russian defense industry hasn’t had an original idea since Kalishnikov designed the AK.”

I agree, That I believe is very true. Everything else they have they’ve stolen.


5 posted on 04/21/2007 5:00:16 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JV43270 God Bless America and ALL WHO HAVE and WILL DEFEND HER.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There’s a lot of F-22 similarities in that picture. Similar double delta wing, but the horizontal stabilizers are different, the engines are farther apart, more like their Su-27 series, and have round nozzles, it looks like it might have above the wing intakes like their MiG-29, the trailing edge of the wings is also different than the F-22 and the canted tails are much smaller and are placed farther back with less canted angle...I’d like to see some other views. I wonder when actual photos will leak out for the world to see.


6 posted on 04/21/2007 5:49:08 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I know we here in the US have some of the world’s best weapon systems. We take this for granted, and are rightly proud of our top of the line fighters, bombers, air craft carriers, tanks, anti-missile systems and our dedicated and well trained and equipped soldiers, airmen and sailors.

But this constant sneering disregard of Russian technology won’t serve us well. They are capable, smart people.

I know they ripped off the B-29, spied to learn atomic secrets, etc.

Of course, our stealth technology was developed by a Russian. They have the super-sonic Sunburn missiles and the hypercavitating supersonic Squall torpedo.

And their bravery has been demonstrated many times. Whether we consider them allies as in WWII or enemies as in the cold war, it is for our own good that we respect them, for they are fully capable of inflicting enormous harm. If we were ever in head-to-head combat, which I pray will never happen (after all, many of our interests coincide), we must not under-estimate them.


7 posted on 04/21/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: GBA
There is like eight Russians left. They have, for now, a nation three times the size of the US to guard. They have a billion and a half Chinese on one side, 500 whacked out Muslims on the other side, confused Germans, French who are looking for a strong leader on yet another side. And their country is run by ex KGB billionaires, who like their Chinese counterparts can’t strip the country and get their booty out to New York, London fast enough.

Other than that, everything is fine.

8 posted on 04/21/2007 6:01:01 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: JOE43270; MARKUSPRIME
"I agree, That I believe is very true. Everything else they have they’ve stolen."
Lighten up. The Mi-24 Hind was a pretty original idea, so were the Tu-22 Blinder, Tu-22M Backfire, as well as many other. Most of their SAM designs have no direct Western counterpart either, ecxept for MANPADs, which were apparently influenced by FIM-42 Redeye (the original SA-7 Strela) and FIM-92 Stinger (SA-16/18 variants). Some reports claim that in Afghanistan the GRU managed to obtain a 1-st generation Stinger in the 80s. The designs which were clearly copied had problems from the get go. The Tu-4 (a ripoff from the B-29) was somewhat unaffectionately referred to by its users and maintainers as "the brick bomber". The Tu-144 (a Concorde ripoff) had structural problems. There does, however, exist a culture of trying to copy the best (and the worst!) of Western hardware within the former Soviet defense complex. This culture was always being "flowed down", and designers often had to stiffle their own original creative thought in order to meet the requirement to reverse engineer this or that system. Tupolev himself had to swallow his pride when he was forced to abandon his own original work and direct the reverse-engineering of B-29 Stratofortress.
9 posted on 04/21/2007 6:02:43 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: biggerten

+1


10 posted on 04/21/2007 6:05:59 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: biggerten

Personally, I don’t disregard Russian designers. Sputnik woke us up to the space race. The MiG-29 is uniquely Russian. The Sukhoi 27 series is disregarded as an F-15 copy, but that’s not the case. Certainly they are influenced by successful Western designs, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t creatively original. I agree. We must never underestimate them.


11 posted on 04/21/2007 6:22:04 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: JOE43270
Everything else they have they’ve stolen.

You mean that you don't think they designed the Buran from scratch? You know it's a coinkydink that it looks so much like our Space Shuttle..... /sarcasmoff

12 posted on 04/21/2007 6:44:17 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: biggerten

Yep, both Iraq conflicts proved that!!??

Ruski weapons always seemed better suited to fighting and suppressing civilians.


13 posted on 04/21/2007 7:44:32 AM PDT by dusttoyou
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Mattel sells these for $12.99 each.


14 posted on 04/21/2007 8:01:25 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Communism is legalized corruption by the elite.)
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To: Hydroshock

Bingoski!

Amazingski, how much they copinski a proven productski...

Da Comrade?


15 posted on 04/21/2007 8:26:13 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: JOE43270
Everything else they have they’ve stolen.

Was Russian space program "stolen" too? Do you mean German engineers working in Russia after WWII ? :)

16 posted on 04/21/2007 8:30:05 AM PDT by A. Pole (Joanne Senier-LaBarre: "We Wish You a Swinging Holiday!")
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To: Hydroshock

LOL, I was wondering how many posts before the artist’s rendering was given that name.


17 posted on 04/21/2007 8:58:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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18 posted on 04/21/2007 9:09:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo
Another thread had the Russians bringing a couple of "Blackjacks" back from the boneyard and planning to crank up production again. Any thoughts about whether that's true? There were a number of good photos of "Blackjacks" on the flight line -- with some old "Bison" examples in the background.
19 posted on 04/21/2007 9:45:30 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: biggerten
Of course, our stealth technology was developed by a Russian.

Wrong. A Russian made the theoretical advance. ALL the engineering and actual technology was done in the US. it's along long way from theory to a working Aircraft.
20 posted on 04/21/2007 9:49:13 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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