Posted on 04/21/2007 3:57:04 PM PDT by freemike
New York-Mass public shootings have become such a part of American life in recent decades that the most dramatic of them can be evoked from the nations collective memory in a word or two: Luby's. Jonesboro. Columbine.
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rhetorical: Have guns become more available since the 60’s (the generation of peace and love) or have Americans become less respectful and mannerly?(also the generation of “do your own thing, man).
Unfortunately the pinheaded liberals came up with the wrong answers - one being gun control — which only made the problems worse and the bad guys bolder.
I notice that guns were easy to get back then, even up to the 1960s, like candy. One can get them in a hardware store. I notice gun control came because of the assassination of JFK, RFK, and MLK. A lot changed from the mid 1960s to 1970s.
Could it be that we have more gun control.
Before 1968 anybody any where could buy a gun through the mail with the only Question ask was the check good.
The people who commit mass murder want to get media attention. The availability of TV's in homes and nationwide networks to widely transmit breaking news stories live increases the incentives for mass killers and terrorists to commit their crimes.
“rhetorical: Have guns become more available since the 60s (the generation of peace and love) or have Americans become less respectful and mannerly?(also the generation of do your own thing, man).”
What the left and the media cannot report is that the biggest increase in anything relative to guns since the 1960s is the increase in gun regulations.
And like many things the that left seeks to regulate, the means never justify the ends in what they propose, because the results that accrue from the regulation seldom fit the stated ends that were sought.
The increased regulation of guns since 1960 is a perfect example of the insanity of liberals. Regulating “guns” does not reduce the number of “gun related” homicides.
Maybe we have more crazy people roaming the streets instead of being locked up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Oliver_Huberty
Guns were a lot easier to get in the “good ol days.” Gun racks in the back of pickup trucks used to be every where. People used to leave rifles in the corner of the living room or in unlocked cabinets. You could buy guns through the mail, for crying out loud. Then lets not forget about the “wild west!” The libs try to have it both ways with the old west. The clamor about new gun freedoms will take us all back to the wild west,, yet, there were not mass killings back then.
The Liberals no longer wanted the Wild West, so they legislated in the Dangerous West.
Treat Them to a Good Dose of Lead (Why the 'Wild West' was not what Liberals claim-my title)
I guess MSM, employing the uneducated, lazy, and agenda driven (marxist moonbats) "journalists" they do, forgot that the worst school mass murder was way back in history, when a farmer, pee'd off that his farm was being siezed for tax arrears, found out that the county was building a new school on the money he had payed. So he blew up the school, killing 42.
Lots of crappy things more common than times part.
There may be some increase in 20th century violence, but maybe it is just to better reporting?
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0070-3370%28199502%2932%3A1%3C1%3AEOETUH%3E2.0.CO%3B2-K&size=LARGE
Sen Christopher Dodds daddy and the GCA of 1968....
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Finding the Nazi Weapons Law whetted our appetite. We wanted to know who implanted this Nazi cancer in America. We began by probing the backgrounds of lawmakers who championed “gun control”. We focused on those whose bills became part of GCA ‘68. GCA ‘68 as enacted closely tracks proposals dating to August 1963. We felt that if the culprit were a lawmaker — or a congressional staffer — he or she would know Germany, German law and possibly even speak German. He or she probably would have spent time in Germany on business or during military service. Alternatively, if the culprit were not a member of Congress or a staffer, there would be testimony at the hearings to that effect.
Most potential suspects were quickly eliminated; they had no apparent ties to Germany. But one lawmaker caught our attention.
An old “Who’s Who” entry showed he had been a senior member of the U.S. team that prosecuted German war criminals at Nuremberg in 1945-46. Thus, he had lived in Germany just after the Nazi period. His official duties required him to look at Nazi records, including Nazi laws. In 1963 he led the effort to greatly expand the Federal Firearms Act of 1938.
We then got a break. We told a legal scholar of our findings. He was intrigued. He sent us an extract from the record of hearings held a few months prior to the enactment of GCA ‘68. At the end of June 1968, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee to investigate Juvenile Delinquency — chaired by Thomas J. Dodd (D-CT) — held hearings on bills: (1) “To Require the Registration of Firearms” (S.3604). (2) “To Disarm Lawless Persons” (S.3634) and (3) “To Provide for the Establishment of a National Firearms Registry” (S.3637), among others.
U.S. Representative John Dingell (D-MI) testified at these Senate hearings on “gun control”. Senator Joseph D. Tydings (D-MD) chaired some of these hearings, in Dodd’s absence.
Rep. Dingell expressed concern that if firearms registration were required, it might lead to confiscation of firearms, as had happened in Nazi Germany. Tydings angrily accused Rep. Dingell of using “scare tactics”
http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm
“People used to live in closer proximity to their families and be more involved with civic and religious institutions. They were less likely to move from one part of the country to another, finding themselves strangers in an unfamiliar environment.”
Yeah...Moms and Dads used to actually live together with their kids. Dads worked and Moms policed the neighborhoods.
Abject helplessness is also more common since the ‘60s. Helplessness and mass murder go hand in hand. There’s a good reason that mass-murdering gunmen don’t pick NASCAR races, rodeos, firing ranges, military bases, or police stations to commit their crimes. They almost always pick gun-free zones.
Elementary school children used to carry guns out in the open riding their bikes.
Yep. Even into the 70's. I remember that at 16, I could walk into a hardware store and but a new shotgun for duck hunting season. All I had to do was show them my drivvers licence.
Teens drove around (in Pa's truck of course) with guns in the gun rack, stopped and shot ducks, plinked or whatever.
There wasn't as much crime then as there is now, and what crime there was didn't involve guns. Gun crime today STILL doesn't involve people with legal guns. Cho didn't have a legal gun;- had the judge followed the liberal rules, liberal "gun laws" that are on the books today- and checked a box 2 years ago when it was found he was a danger to society.
Had the students at VA had the same freedoms we had in the 60's and 70's, (and if you think we haven't lost freedom since then, you're either too young to know, or too old to remember) Cho wouldn't have been able to take a lunch break, mail a package to someone he knew at NBC, reload, and casually wander back into campus.
Correct! Just look at Carl Pazram who stole the Presidents Gun and used it to kill at least seven people.http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/panzram1/1.html Everything old is new again.
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