Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
BUMP!
That person STILL wouldn’t be Rudy McRomney...
You might want to look into Rudy’s appointments record. And I will never ever accept or support or vote for an abortionist, gay rights loving, gun grabbing liberal for president or leader of my party anyway. Rudy is totally unacceptable and is out of the question.
Why are you such a defeatist?
“I don’t thing the party has learned the lesson of 2006 yet.”
Neither do I!
Becki
That may be. Time will tell. But one would not necessarily come to that conclusion to look at the polls, or read the articles that accompany his various visits to towns and cities across the nation.
The election is a long way off, in a sense. Lots could happen. But conversely, the first debate is just weeks away. And at this moment in time, the race is between Rudy and McCain, with Rudy in front, and Romney also in the mix. That is a fact. And PS - I am one of the conservatives here...and Rudy is far from a socialist. I think it's hyperbole to call him one.
This is why you are my hero.
I agree that a substantial thid party draw would ensure a Hillary presidency. But I disagree that she must be loving the idea of a Rudy nomination -- Rudy couldn't win the FR vote, but he is capable of winning the national vote and defeating Hillary. Hillary is hating that idea. And it would be a very sad chapter in US political history if FR played into Hillary's hands, by drawing off Republican votes from Rudy to an unelectable third party candidate.
That's asinine.
You pick the candidate in the primaries that most closely resembles your views. If you think Rudy will be the best President, vote for him. But you are voting for him based on electability you are going to lose every time.
Democrats always pretend to be conservatives to get elected. Remember when the reporter in 2004 tried to get Kerry to admit he was a liberal during the debate? He couldn't do it. The 2004 Democratic Convention was a stage production for fake patriotism. They win by the narrowest margins by convincing the mush in the middle to give them the benefit of the doubt.
What happens when the Republicans start acting and talking like liberals? They lose. Every time we vote for a squishy, quasi-conservative because he's "electable" we get a bigger, more powerful government, and the balance of power between the three branches gets further out of whack.
If the Republicans continue to operate under this "bigger tent" theory, our choices will soon change from Democrat or Republican to Communist or Socialist. If the Democrats didn't shoot themselves in the foot in their eagerness to push us over the edge every time they get in power we would be there already.
Bump
Hell no! We ain’t giving up the fight.
“I find it implausible to associate Rudy with the meaning of ‘socialism” I learned by my own skin while living under it.”
Precision is not a FR strength. While the rest of America uses words like liberal, conservative and middle of the road, at FR anybody not a social conservative is a socialist.
And up to the post number here, there has not been one single word in this thread about national security, world terror threat.
The site is less and less in touch with reality, because those issues are near the top for voters.
“You might try paying a little attention to some of the conservatives here. I think the chances of Rudy ever getting the nomination or of becoming president are somewhere between slim to none and not a snowball’s chance in hell.”
Sweet to the ears. Those country clubbin establishment types are only a vocal minority. They will get their collective (pun intended) azzes kicked in the primaries. The nomination will eventually go to a conservative. But the swift surrender by the hierarchy of the GOP is a battle as important as the nomination. Conservatives need to work to kick them out. Freepers need to join your local GOP Party/Club/Central Committee and start changing things again.
1) “Social Conservative” is a term ACTUALLY used to describe those to whom social issues (anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc) are far more important than any other issues.
2) Ok, so your definition of “socialism” is? (and no, it’s not “anything I disgree with”.)
If the party nominates a candidate that alienates and drives away a significant portion of the base, that’s the fault of the party and the candidate, not the people who choose to vote their conscience.
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