'Lord' is fading at some churches (Barf alert)

Arizona Daily Star ^ | April 22, 2007 | Stephanie Innes

[Zakeet]

God has no gender. And the Lord? There's not much Lord in this church service.

At Tucson's largest Episcopal church, St. Philip's in the Hills, the creators of an alternative worship service called Come & See are bucking tradition by rewriting what have become prescribed ways of worship.

For the faithful, that means God isn't referred to as "him," and references to "the Lord" are rare. "Lord" has become a loaded word conveying hierarchical power over things, "which in what we have recorded in our sacred texts, is not who Jesus understood himself to be," St. Philip's associate rector Susan Anderson-Smith said.

"The way our service reads, the theology is that God is love, period," St. Philip's deacon Thomas Lindell added. "Our service has done everything it can to get rid of power imagery. We do not pray as though we expect the big guy in the sky to come and fix everything."

St. Philip's isn't the only local church to re-examine its language. Other local religious leaders already are eschewing the use of "Lord" for similar reasons. First Congregational United Church of Christ in Midtown even has a different name for The Lord's Prayer. They call it "The Prayer of Our Creator."

"We do still use the word 'Lord' on occasion, but we are suspicious of it," First Congregational pastor Briget Nicholson said. "Inclusive language is important. Our United Church of Christ hymnal does have hymns that will say 'Father' and 'God.' but the next verse will always then say 'Mother' and 'God.' It's gender-balanced."

[aomagrat]

Other revised inspirational stories of moral relativism include:

* The Organic Garden of Eden
* Pharaoh Has Two Mummies
* What Happens in Sodom and Gomorrah Stays in Sodom and Gomorrah
* Noah Builds Ark to Survive Global Warming
* Jonah Saves the Whale
* David Appeases Goliath
* The Bilingual Writing on the Wall
* The Tower of Babel & The Controlled Demolition Theory
* Uncle Samson & The NY Times Reporter Delilah
* Judas The ACLU Lawyer
* Joseph & Mary Celebrate Holiday Season By Donating Fetus To Federal Embryonic Stem Cell Bank
* Government Program Feeds The Multitudes with Five “Whole Grain” Loaves And Two Non-Endangered Fishes

[logos]

Think about the utter foolishness of retaining one's maiden name, as in Lydia Smith-Jones. In order to cast off the burden of one man's name, you take on two men's names, adding your father's name to the name of your groom.

Feminism, thy name is foolishness.

[BelegStrongbow]

Jesus Christ is LORD was the first and at the time total Credo for at least 150 years.

I’d suggest this heresy and all it is causing stems from diminished capacity, myself.

[alarm rider]

Did you hear the one about the Universal Unitarian melt down? Someone mentioned “God” and then said the word “Bible”. There were major fainting spells.

[FourPeas]

John 13:12-13

When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what i have done for you?” he asked them. “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am.

[Zakeet]

Did you hear the one about the Universal Unitarian melt down? Someone mentioned “God” and then said the word “Bible”. There were major fainting spells.

A few years ago in my hometown, the Unitarians celebrated Easter by staging a science fair. I haven't paid any attention to them since.

[Bigg Red]

I did not say that God is a male; I said God is a He. I base this on the very same references that you made of God the Father. So your beef with me is...?

[Honorary Serb]

In the strictest Christian sense, "Lord" comes from the Greek word kyrios, which Greek culture in the first century understood in much different ways, Anderson-Smith said. Evidence suggests the word was used in talking about Jesus as the fullest embodied revelation of God, but it had a lot less to do with hierarchy than what the word means now, she said. "Jesus was for an egalitarian community. He did not have room for titles or status....."

FIDDLE-FADDLE!!!! One reason for why Christians got in trouble with the Roman state is that to call Jesus "Kyrios" was to say that Jesus was Lord instead of Caesar!!!!!

This feminazi priestess with the hyphenated name needs to take a refresher New Testament 101 course, from a decent professor who will teach the basics rather than "the feminazi/'gay'/liberation theology New Testament"!!!!

The only reason that Episcopalian feminazis have to write a new service is that the Book of Common Prayer prescribes using "Lord". In the ELCA, the bogus new "Evangelical Lutheran Worship" provides many ways to eliminate "Lord", "Father", "King", etc. Thus although ECUSA is a step ahead of ELCA in promoting "gay" priests and "bishops", it is a step behind it in promoting "inclusive language". Both of these changes are pure POISON!!!!

[gcruse]

“I did not say that God is a male; I said God is a He.’

Beam me up, Scottie. It’s knee deep down here.

[Unam Sanctam]

I thought of that very same passage.

[wayne_b24]

good stuff! yers, or borrowed?

[BillT]

The Bible also says that there will be a “great falling away” before the rapture. This sure sounds like that happening.

[AnalogReigns]

There is wonderful oversight and biblical guidance in the largest (by far) Protestant group in the world, the Anglican Communion, just not in the apostate-led Episcopal Church in the USA. Probably over 80% of Anglicans worldwide can be called “evangelical” or “orthodox.” Anglican churches and individuals who have left the American Episcopal Church are currently being persecuted in a multitude of lawsuits, among other ways, by the false teachers leading the Episcopalian denomination.

Evangelicals in America faithful to the authority of holy scripture have taken up the name “Anglican.” Please do not confuse them with the Episcopalians.

[AnalogReigns]

The sad thing is the same readings would be done in an Episcopal Church...just the priest is not likely to take any of them seriously.

At the same time, there are many faithful, orthodox Christian Episcopalians—in good churches here and there, and even individuals in not so good churches. They are an increasingly marginalized and persecuted minority though...as the tentacles of apostate, unbiblical, liberal theology, seeks to destroy the faithful.

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:11-13)

[longtermmemmory]

Episcopal kookiness.

Next we have the mix and match looseleaf notebook bible.

[bboop]

Oh, I know all about the Anglican covering of the orthodox American Episcopal, had been (”Pentacostal”)Episcopal for many years. It is a good thing.My brother-in-law is still deeply involved.

[hinckley buzzard]

Is she reading different 'sacred texts' than the Bible

A Course in Miracles...The Celestine Prophecies...The Uranian Chronicles...Out on a Limb...Edgar Cayce...Nostradamus...no doubt the list goes on.

[SuziQ]

Oh, and “The DaVinci Code” must have been in there somewhere, as well.

[rhema]

Think about the utter foolishness of retaining one's maiden name, as in Lydia Smith-Jones. In order to cast off the burden of one man's name, you take on two men's names, adding your father's name to the name of your groom. Feminism, thy name is foolishness.

Exhibit A, the new ELCA hymnal.