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Religious group attacks religion in U.S. healthcare
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | 04/24/07 | By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

Posted on 04/25/2007 2:57:26 AM PDT by Bluestateredman

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Religious group attacks religion in U.S. healthcare By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor Tue Apr 24, 6:11 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A coalition of religious leaders took on the Catholic Church, the U.S. Supreme Court and the Bush administration on Tuesday with a plea to take religion out of health care in the United States.

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They said last week's Supreme Court decision outlawing a certain type of abortion demonstrated that religious belief was interfering with personal rights and the U.S. health care system in general.

The group, calling itself the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, said it planned to submit its proposals to other church groups and lobby Congress and state legislators.

"With the April 18 Supreme Court decision banning specific abortion procedures, concerns are being raised in religious communities about the ethics of denying these services," the group said in a statement.

"They are imposing their points of view," Barbara Kavadias, director of field services for the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, told reporters in a telephone briefing.

She noted that the five Supreme Court justices on the majority in the 5-4 decision were all Catholic men -- Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Anthony Kennedy, Justice Samuel Alito, Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Antonin Scalia.

All were appointed by conservative Republican presidents who oppose abortion, including President George W. Bush.

The group also complained about Catholic-owned hospitals that refuse to sterilize women who ask for it, refuse to let doctors perform abortions and do not provide contraception.

"Doctors, pharmacists and nurses are also increasingly exercising a so-called 'religious or moral objection,' refusing to provide essential services and often leaving patients without other options," the group said in a statement.

CODIFYING RELIGION

"And now, to make it worse, the government is codifying these refusals, first through legislation and now with the recent Supreme Court decision, where five Catholic men decided that they could better determine what was moral and good than the physicians, women and families facing difficult, personal choices in problem pregnancies," it added.

The group includes ordained Protestant ministers, a Jewish activist, an expert on women's reproductive rights and several physicians.

"The threat comes from a few, but powerful, religions and a few ... powerful religious leaders who pretend to speak for all religions," said Larry Greenfield, executive minister of the American Baptist Churches of Metro Chicago.

"Health care decisions ought to be made freely, based on medical expertise and individual conscience," he added.

The group wrote up a series of guidelines and asked for all health care providers to implement them.

They include allowing doctors to use best medical practices, providing comprehensive counseling on sexual or reproductive health and an agreement to honor advance directives -- including "do not resuscitate" orders.

"Refusal to provide health care would be balanced by alternate service delivery so that no one would be victimized when another exercises his/her conscience," the guidelines read.

Marie Hilliard of the National Catholic Bioethics Center in Philadelphia said she had grave concerns about the report.

"There is no recognition of the true meaning of the separation of church and state, which mandates that the free exercise of religion, including that of the provider, be respected," she said.

"What we have tried to avoid is to be coercive ourselves," Greenfield said. "We have tried to allow for the freedom of conscience of every participant in the health care system."

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To: Bluestateredman

Hate filled, bigotry from a phony abortion industry front group.


21 posted on 04/25/2007 4:58:55 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Bluestateredman

What about euthanasia? Is the termination of unfit next?


22 posted on 04/25/2007 5:06:57 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: kittymyrib
What “religious leaders” could possibly be in favor of this barbaric practice?

Whatever name they claim, they are followers of Moloch.

23 posted on 04/25/2007 5:06:58 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Bluestateredman
"A coalition of religious leaders........."

Okay, where does the author of this journalistic masterpiece list the names of these "leaders", i.e. what their professions are in the religious community, where are they from geographically, what denominations do they purport to represent, what churches or organizations are they affiliated with, what other non-religious organizations are they affiliated with, and so forth.

Most people reading this propaganda never ask these questions and just take at face value that these "leaders" represent anything of note or substance in the religious world.

They could be Wiccans, Wobblies or Mugwumps for all we know.

Leni

24 posted on 04/25/2007 5:17:42 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bahama Mama ( moi ) planning FReeper vacation week. Not a cruise. It's "FReeps Ashore!" Stay tuned!)
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To: Bluestateredman
"What we have tried to avoid is to be coercive ourselves," Greenfield said. "We have tried to allow for the freedom of conscience of every participant in the health care system."

Oh really...so if a nurse takes it upon him/herself to administer "mercy killings" with the justification of freedom from religious/moral tenets this is reasonable? Partial birth abortion was flat out MURDER and should never have been legal.

25 posted on 04/25/2007 5:22:22 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Beckwith
I was under the impression that it has been determined for a number of years that murder was NOT moral and good.

Your comment on the immorality and evil along with others of a similar vein exemplify why I converted to the Roman Catholic faith. Now if we could get equal opposition from the Church on homosexuality.

26 posted on 04/25/2007 5:43:07 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: driftdiver

“Perhaps we shouldn’t allow people who attend church to vote. after all that fits the true meaning of the separation of state from church.”

Scary thought...but that may be their ultimate goal!


27 posted on 04/25/2007 5:56:44 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Polybius

“They said last week’s Supreme Court decision outlawing a certain type of abortion demonstrated that religious belief was interfering with personal rights and the U.S. health care system in general.”

Just how far are they willing to take this personal rights hokum? Murder is to be sanctioned...as a personal right? Why have any code of laws? We must have the personal right to do any thing we wish.


28 posted on 04/25/2007 6:02:29 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Dudoight

Abortion is not health care.


29 posted on 04/25/2007 6:11:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bluestateredman

I’m an atheist. I agree with the decision. Where does that leave their argument?


30 posted on 04/25/2007 6:29:23 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Gil4

Well, yes, there is that behind it.


31 posted on 04/25/2007 7:10:20 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: tflabo

Exactly! Are not the doctors and nurses “participants” in the health care system? Supposing they don’t wish to carry out abortions and 2mercy killings”? Is their alternative to leave the profession?

All this talk of imposing moral standards and coercion of belief is all very well, but these people carefully ignore that is exactly what they are guilty of themselves.


32 posted on 04/25/2007 7:13:22 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Bluestateredman
The group includes ordained Protestant ministers, a Jewish activist, an expert on women's reproductive rights and several physicians.

The activist is not "Jewish". Jewish Law clearly defines abortion as murder.

33 posted on 04/25/2007 7:19:20 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Roy Tucker
"women and families facing difficult, personal choices in problem pregnancies,"

The this group, being pregnant itself IS the "problem".

34 posted on 04/25/2007 7:21:32 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Lion Den Dan
Now if we could get equal opposition from the Church on homosexuality.

The Pope condemned homosexuality just last week.
35 posted on 04/25/2007 7:34:40 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Bluestateredman
the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice

A suspicious name for a "religious" group.

Sounds like another front group for the Sex Positive (hedonist) Agenda. If it feels good do it. Abortion is a right. Everyone sexually active at every age. No moral judgements over any sexual pairings. Abstinence is unhealthy because it is a supression of sexual desires. Et al.

36 posted on 04/25/2007 9:05:25 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Brilliant
i.e., another phony religious group—liberal activists masquerading as believers to get the attention of the media.

It works for Fred Phelps (D) and his family's cult.

37 posted on 04/25/2007 9:09:34 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: wtc911
There are plenty of protestant Freepers who dump on Catholics every chance they get.

I would not say there are "plenty", but there are quite a few of us...

38 posted on 04/25/2007 10:06:18 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are willing to sacrifice any amount of someone else's money to increase their own power...)
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To: Bluestateredman
The ethics of preserving life mean nothing to religious leftists. Do they believe an infant has a soul? If they truly believed in God they would not support such unconscionable procedures in the name of "choice."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 04/25/2007 10:27:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: montag813
Judaism allows abortion to save the life of the mother so it doesn't classify abortion as murder. If a choice has to be made, then one should save the life of the mother since she can have a child again. But Judaism doesn't approve of abortion on demand. A necessary evil can never be a positive good and Judaism's principle, after exalting God, is to affirm the holiness of human life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

40 posted on 04/25/2007 10:32:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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