Why Is Pizza Shop Owner That Shot Armed Robber Having to Defend Himself?

Fox News ^ | John Gibson

[CCCnative]

A story in the San Francisco Chronicle today describes a shooting in East Oakland in which a beloved young rapper was gunned down in the prime of life.

The rapper's nickname was Boonie, and not far from where he was shot dead a memorial has sprung up with flowers and hand-printed messages from his many friends in the neighborhood. "The world's gonna miss u," read one message. ... an Oakland cop actually saying he wants the citizens he is supposed to protect let themselves be victimized rather than defend themselves. Holmgren said: "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

[CCCnative]

I recommend reading the whole article. Self defense seems like it is only justifiable if the other guy shoots first. I suppose the robber could have called ahead and told the owner he was only doing this for show.

[enough_idiocy]

Because a portion of America is insane and has been hoodwinked

[Red Badger]

I bet Tameka in Cleveland would be outraged........Outraged that the Pizza Owner wasn’t arrested for murder!........

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822587/posts

[chaos_5]

Thats what it is coming to, you have to prove you protected your self and only narrowly escaped death. Otherwise you’re going down for manslaughter and the punk that was robbing you will be the victim. Oh, you had better kill him too, else be liable for his medical bills, and stand by to pay his family out in a civil case to.

THIS IS F’N NUTS!!!!

[RexBeach]

Once again, another superb example of that all important Democratic principle: Talk is precious, action is cheap.

Meanwhile, the punk who put a gun at the business owner’s head is viewed as a good person.

Pretzel logic is alive and well in the Bay area.

[EdReform]

Bang

[Cyber Liberty]

The article doesn't say, and it's irrelevant anyway.

They guy's in trouble because he was foolish enough to operate a family business in E. Oakland.

[ibbryn]

But if the cop had been working a second job at his families pizza joint when it got robbed and he felt his family was threatened he would have said it was his duty as a cop to protect his family.

[Onelifetogive]

We want citizens to be good witnesses...

"Officer, you see that dead guy over there on the floor.......Yeah....He's the guy you're looking for."

[kromike]

I don't doubt for a New-York-minute that there will likely be an increase in "midnight burials".

Store owners, besieged by idiotic families filing lawsuits for some quick easy cash, will avoid going bankrupt by killing the perp, skip calling the police, quietly clean up, and then make a midnight trip to dump the body somewhere.

[LIConFem]

S.S.S.

[garyhope]

“to be good report-takers and to identify suspects.”

The perfect “liberal” response,...talk, all talk and nothing but talk. No action, no reality, no pragmatism, no self-defense. Just be a victim even if it causes your own death. Better you than one of the poor “minority” criminal thugs and gansta’s.

[spunkets]

"Holmgren(the chief) said: "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

The law recognizes self defense chief. Excersizing self defense is not taking the law into one's own hands and You're not the law you friggin' idiot.

[lesser_satan]

...Oakland cop actually saying he wants the citizens he is supposed to protect let themselves be victimized rather than defend themselves. Holmgren said: "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

He wants citizens to be murdered in their own homes and businesses. Defending their lives and property against some murdering thug is not "taking the law into their own hands" you stupid jackbooted thug-with-a-badge.

[jazusamo]

Here's the link to the video of John Gibon's My Word on this segment.

Link

[unixfox]

We want citizens to be good witnesses little lemmings, to be good report-takers boot lickers and to identify suspects."

There, fixed it.

[fso301]

It’s always better to be judged by 12 strangers than carried by 6 friends.

[PEACE ENFORCER]

I think (legally) the only way you are in “deep crap” is if you shoot the criminal in the back. SOOOOOOO make sure it’s a frontal shot, and empty all rounds into the now DEAD criminal as you will have less of a chance of being sued by CRIMINAL at a later date.

[Quick or Dead]

The pizza owner might have had a parade down Market Street in San Francisco. Instead, he's scared. He won't even say he's glad he defended his family, and the cops are saying things like this from Officer Roland Holmgren, who said, "Who knows where the suspects were going to take the situation? But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did."

And who knew where Timothy McVeigh was going to take the situation on April 19, 1995 when he decided to take his truck out for a drive?

"We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

Citizens don't need to take the law into their own hands, that's what the police are for. However, citizens need to take their safety into their own hands, which is what the owner did, because it's hard to be a good witness when your body is room temperature.