Posted on 04/30/2007 8:59:22 PM PDT by LdSentinal
Is it significant that the five Supreme Court justices who voted to uphold the federal ban on a controversial abortion procedure also happen to be the court's Roman Catholics?
It is to Tony Auth, the Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist for the Philadelphia Inquirer. He drew Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. wearing bishop's miters, and labeled his cartoon "Church and State."
Rosie O'Donnell and Barbara Walters hashed out the issue on "The View," with O'Donnell noting that a majority of the court is Catholic and wondering about "separation of church and state." Walters counseled that "we cannot assume that they did it because they're Catholic."
And the chatter continues, on talk radio and in the blogosphere. In the latter category, no one has stirred it up quite like Geoffrey R. Stone, former dean and now provost of the University of Chicago's law school.
He posted an item titled "Faith-Based Justices" on his school's blog and on Huffington Post. The post was mostly praised by liberal readers at Huffington Post, but set off a free-for-all back home in Chicago on the faculty blog.
Stone's argument was that the decision in Gonzales v. Carhart repudiated the court's previous abortion jurisprudence and offered flimsy reasoning for upholding the federal ban on the procedure opponents call "partial birth," when seven years ago it had rejected a Nebraska law that was "virtually identical."
"What then explains this decision?" he wrote. "Here is a painfully awkward observation: All five justices in the majority in Gonzales are Catholic. The four justices who are either Protestant or Jewish all voted in accord with settled precedent. It is mortifying to have to point this out."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
OH I see so the Demos going blame Cathoics for ruling probably they are so out of it LOL!
OH I see so the Demos going blame Cathoics for ruling probably they are so out of it LOL!
If Catholics adopted a conservative agenda, the Democrats would be finished.
I don’t think it was as much their Catholicism as it was their humanity.
You might as well ask if Ginsberg’s Jewishness had anything to do with HER vote.
Notice, one more time, the Rats ignore the issue, instead they attack personally, those on the other side. Someday I hope soon, America needs that little boy to stand up and tell us the Rats don`t have any clothes.
Hmm. More meds and sleep. Call us in the morning.
Basics: The left despises and wants to destroy all religion, because morality stands in the ay of their agenda. There is a virulent anti-catholocism at work, but in the end all traditional religions are to be targets. There was no settled precedent for partial birth abortion, and Souter and Ginzberg are left wing radicals, regardless of religion.
NO!
This article is a disgrace.
Sure, it’s because they’re Catholics.
They’re Catholics voting their conscience.
And this is a problem because...?
You don’t have to be Catholic or even religious to see PBA as out and out murder. Even those who tolerate early abortion see PBA as murder.
Who cares? Partial Birth Abortion is banned. Praise God!!!
Catholicism is humanity.
Jesus walked into a world that stoned women to death for committing adultery. Most of the world has given that up, since.
How come nobody ever says that someone voted for or against something because of their atheism? Just curious.
Did Harry Reid’s Mormanism cause him to vote for the measure?
I take this only to indicate that Catholics raise their children better... I’m sure is my son or daughter were on the court, they would have voted the same way.
What were they first: human, or Catholic?
That’s all I’m saying.
Not to diminish what you said either. You are right on.
Did Steven’s dementia influence his vote?
Did Bryer’s liberalism influence his vote?
Did Souter’s gayness influence his vote?
WHY YES IT DID!
just don’t think you can be one without the other.
Once again all cues flow from Rosie O’Donnell to the New York Times to the rest of the media, follow the lunacy.
I am not Catholic, am in fact an atheist who is anti-religion. But PBA is murder. While first trimester abortion is at least debatable, there’s none to be had with PBA.
Because if you say you’re an atheist, you don’t get elected in the first place.
Ah, good point.
But, then again, we’re talking about media analysis of somebody else’s decision, so getting elected doesn’t enter into it.
Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg’s religion is the ACLU and it DOES play a role in her decisions.
Agreed, but media don’t bother analysing the decisions of people out of govt much.
It’s worse!!! All five of the justices voting to ban PBA are men. Does their gender have anything to do with their decision? Is it a guy thing? What does that say for the three other ‘men’ who voted against the ban? Inquiring minds with nothing else to do with their time want to know!
I should have added that it is actually part of a political platform and the dems will fight tooth and nail to keep any form of abortion. BTW, I’m not an athiest or a Catholic.
Is Catholocism the only religion or Church that opposes abortion?
Or are we to infer that justices must be atheists?
Or is a pro-choice denomination deemed therefore to be neutral.
How can either a believer or atheist rule ‘objectively’ on cases of State and Religion?
Someone call the logic police..
So we must only have secularists on the SCOTUS. What a bunch of crapola. I’m not Catholic but their decision was the right one whether they used religion or not, which I seriously doubt that they did. They used the Constitution which is against the secularists view.
“How can either a believer or atheist rule objectively on cases of State and Religion?”
Is it too late for the states to resume being laboratories of democracy? That would mean the Supremes objectively, regardless of their beliefs, understood what the Constitution means by delegating everything reserved to central government to the states.
At least that way, the juggling of beliefs would be done closer to the voter and, hopefully, the voter’s wishes.
But to answer my own question, thanks to Democrats and Republicans alike, federalism is dead. We’re on a one-way trip to ennervated statehouses and brogdingnagian federal govt.
How about “Atheist judges’ ruling influenced by their world view”.
Make that everything NOT reserved to central govt.
Where does the Constitution prohibit establishing a worldview?
good posts, good points.
Yes, we’ve gone from “the United States are..” to “the United States is..”
Is there a requirement in the Catholic religion that forces them to read the CONSTITUTION? It seems like they are the only ones that read it in this ruling.
Did Ginsburg’s and Breyer’s Communist beliefs influence their voting?
...because the true religion (for the Leftist) is secularism. Deceitful to its core, it will not even acknowledge itself as a religion, hence the false “Church/State” dichotomy, and the twisting contortion of Jefferson’s words on the subject.
Then I guess that means that Cathoics are the only ones with morals because anyone that would vote for partial birth abortion is one sick dude with no morals what-so-ever.
Rosie O’Mengele chooses not to see the brutality of this procedure.
That’s all I need to know about Rosie. Her fat mouth opinions are worthless.
Any QVC shoppers here? Rumour is she was supposed to be a guest selling a crafting kit of some sort in May, now postponed to December. Voice your opinion on their website if you are inclined.
“Did Justices’ Catholicism Play Part in Abortion Ruling?”
So what if it did? What would be wrong with that?
It the new Supreme Court Litmus test a refusal to fear God?
The Washington Post circulation down -3.5%.
Wonder why?
I certainly HOPE so!!! That’s what the Catholic Religion is...PRO_LIFE!
You said, “You dont have to be Catholic or even religious to see PBA as out and out murder. Even those who tolerate early abortion see PBA as murder.”
I’m Catholic and I agree with you. You don’t have to single out Catholics....I know people of the Lutheran faith who see abortion as immoral, and one of them is a Lutheran minister.
“Is it significant that the five Supreme Court justices who voted to uphold the federal ban on a controversial abortion procedure also happen to be the court’s Roman Catholics?”
I can play this game -
Is it significant that newspaper writers who support abortion also happen to be left wingers like Hitler?
Actually the “other guys” aren’t real Protestants or real Jews anyway.
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